Yankee off season thread, news, notes, rumors and ideas

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Apparently this transparent shifting of the goalposts is the closest you'll ever get to admitting you were dead wrong. Maybe try avoiding chiming in so confidently on topics you are so unfamiliar with.

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I never shifted any goal posts when my main point was that the projections for the Yankees after cole and maybe kluber were not very good at all . The only thing I may have been wrong about was my understanding of how war is calculated .

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Originally Posted by Posada20

I never shifted any goal posts when my main point was that the projections for the Yankees after cole and maybe kluber were not very good at all . The only thing I may have been wrong about was my understanding of how war is calculated .

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May have been? :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Posada20

That’s the thing most of those

Say it any way you want but an era of over 4 for a starter is not very good at all . Era is over 9 innings so every 9 innings a starter goes they give up atleast 4 runs . That is not that good . And unless tailon starts less than 27 games this year , 132 innings translates to less than 5 innings a start . Again not very good either . I am not saying all those numbers are wrong either . I actually agree with them . Especially the projections from tailon and kluber . I am just trying to understand how the yanks can have the best war in baseball when 3 teams are gonna have better team starting eras than the Yankees .

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I get what you're saying and I don't disagree. In a perfect world, we would have Cole as our #1, a solid #1a who would have a sub 2.0 era and three other solid pitchers who had sub 3.50 eras. We don't. What we have is a long line of potential starters, a solid bullpen, and a good offense (great if everyone could stay semi-healthy).

Fortunately, the bullpen pitchers regularly have 2.0-2.5 eras so to win most games, our team will need to score about 3-4 runs which should not be a problem most nights which is why we are predicted to win a large amount of games.

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Originally Posted by PJO34

I get what you're saying and I don't disagree. In a perfect world, we would have Cole as our #1, a solid #1a who would have a sub 2.0 era and three other solid pitchers who had sub 3.50 eras. We don't. What we have is a long line of potential starters, a solid bullpen, and a good offense (great if everyone could stay semi-healthy).

Fortunately, the bullpen pitchers regularly have 2.0-2.5 eras so to win most games, our team will need to score about 3-4 runs which should not be a problem most nights which is why we are predicted to win a large amount of games.

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Remember that time, about the last month or so when we didn't have to explain things like we would to small children or animals ??

asking for a friend

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Originally Posted by PJO34

I get what you're saying and I don't disagree. In a perfect world, we would have Cole as our #1, a solid #1a who would have a sub 2.0 era and three other solid pitchers who had sub 3.50 eras. We don't. What we have is a long line of potential starters, a solid bullpen, and a good offense (great if everyone could stay semi-healthy).

Fortunately, the bullpen pitchers regularly have 2.0-2.5 eras so to win most games, our team will need to score about 3-4 runs which should not be a problem most nights which is why we are predicted to win a large amount of games.

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Other than Britton and Chapman who in the Bullpen is exactly solid and can give a lot of innings ? Chapman has been hittable over the last couple years , oday hasn’t pitched much over the last few years and is almost 40 . And green has been hit or miss . And did you check out that link with projections ? It showed what that long line of potential starters would do and none of them were very good at all . Check the projections they have for their relievers ,none of them besides Chapman is projected to have an era below 3.4 .Like it or not the Yankees pitching is not as rock solid as you think it is. And since when is it too much to ask for a number two starter that can have an era below 4 , and give more than 160 innings ?

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Originally Posted by dayners81

Remember that time, about the last month or so when we didn't have to explain things like we would to small children or animals ??

asking for a friend

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Remember when we had mods that stickied threads and didn't repost things that others posted on a regular basis.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Apparently this transparent shifting of the goalposts is the closest you'll ever get to admitting you were dead wrong. Maybe try avoiding chiming in so confidently on topics you are so unfamiliar with.

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I think you should explain goalposts to him. Maybe he doesn't actually know what they are either.
He did think a righty batter pulled the ball to RF, so maybe he thinks goalposts are lineup up perfectly and touching as opposed to being on the opposite ends of the field.

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Originally Posted by dayners81

Yes, he is almost exactly what i was talking about. If he could help out a guy like Austin Wells and work with him to improve his defensive fundamentals, Wells could have a very bright career as a catcher, when alot of scouts think he's destined for LF/1st base.

At the same time he's got a solid rep as a receiver and game caller. A guy like him could help our young pitchers a great deal as well. Any C that has spent 10+ yrs at the MLB level have experience that you just can't teach. He could help the pitchers in AAA work on their game plans, pitch sequencing ect. Having caught Verlander, Morton, Cole, Greinke he certainly has seem what works and what doesn't and passing that onto the kids as they are coming up would be huge advantage for our young pitchers.

IMO, if the Yanks can develop a couple TOR starters and BP arms out of this large group of high talented pitchers that are all within a yr or 2 of being MLB ready i think they could keep this championship window open a bit longer with this group. Having an excellent veteran catcher around that can help with development would be a huge asset if they were to use him as a coach also

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The image that keeps coming to mind is of Kevin Costner and Tim Robbins. Crash and Nuke

“Well, Nuke’s scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man is here. We need a live rooster, is it a live rooster? We need a live rooster to take the curse off José’s glove, and nobody seems to know what to get Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present. Is that about right? We’re dealing with a lot of ****.”

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Other than Britton and Chapman who in the Bullpen is exactly solid and can give a lot of innings ? Chapman has been hittable over the last couple years , oday hasn’t pitched much over the last few years and is almost 40 . And green has been hit or miss . And did you check out that link with projections ? It showed what that long line of potential starters would do and none of them were very good at all . Check the projections they have for their relievers ,none of them besides Chapman is projected to have an era below 3.4 .Like it or not the Yankees pitching is not as rock solid as you think it is. And since when is it too much to ask for a number two starter that can have an era below 4 , and give more than 160 innings ?

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I honestly do not know. This team is baseball's version of Schrodinger's cat. I can imagine everyone being relatively healthy and winning the World Series, and I can imagine a raft of injuries and under-performing that end in a hasty exit in the early rounds of the playoffs. The only sure thing is I will enjoy every game I get to see and hope as many spring training games are telecast as possible. I am really interested in seeing if Kluber can be any where near his former self. I am excited to see how the kids have grown over the off-season. In short, I just want to watch some baseball. I want to sit back with an ice-t and a pizza and forget all the unpleasantness of everyday life in a sprawling game without clocks that doesn't care when it ends. This is the time of the year when we can imagine Judge and Stanton being healthy all year and fighting each other for league MVP as each club 60 home runs. We can imagine Cole pitching his way to a Cy Young while a completely revitalized Kluber fights to take it from him. We can also imagine Clarke Schmidt putting actions to his words and becoming (surprisingly) the staff ace. Who knows what can happen? Perhaps, the team will be exciting enough where you will put aside the negativity and simply watch some games and realize what drew you to the sport in the first place.

^^ :clap: :hi5:

Pleasant thoughts during an unpleasant time.

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Originally Posted by PJO34

I honestly do not know. This team is baseball's version of Schrodinger's cat. I can imagine everyone being relatively healthy and winning the World Series, and I can imagine a raft of injuries and under-performing that end in a hasty exit in the early rounds of the playoffs. The only sure thing is I will enjoy every game I get to see and hope as many spring training games are telecast as possible. I am really interested in seeing if Kluber can be any where near his former self. I am excited to see how the kids have grown over the off-season. In short, I just want to watch some baseball. I want to sit back with an ice-t and a pizza and forget all the unpleasantness of everyday life in a sprawling game without clocks that doesn't care when it ends. This is the time of the year when we can imagine Judge and Stanton being healthy all year and fighting each other for league MVP as each club 60 home runs. We can imagine Cole pitching his way to a Cy Young while a completely revitalized Kluber fights to take it from him. We can also imagine Clarke Schmidt putting actions to his words and becoming (surprisingly) the staff ace. Who knows what can happen? Perhaps, the team will be exciting enough where you will put aside the negativity and simply watch some games and realize what drew you to the sport in the first place.

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He doesn't understand WAR, goalposts or a host of other things and you drop Schrodinger's cat on him?

Edit- I realized your mention of that experiment will actually recreate it. The concept Schrodinger's cat is simply substituted for radioactivity and a poster becomes the cat. In what state will we find the poster after the cat has been introduced? Both confused and enlightened?

Yankees Sign Derek Dietrich, Nick Goody

By Steve Adams | February 17, 2021 at 7:32am CDT

The Yankees announced their full slate of non-roster invitees to Spring Training on Wednesday, and while the bulk of them have already been reported over the course of the offseason, there are a few new attendees among the bunch. Infielder/outfielder Derek Dietrich, right-handers Nick Goody and Luis Garcia, outfielder Ryan LaMarre and southpaw Lucas Luetge are will all be in camp as non-roster players with the Yanks.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/...ick-goody.html

Clown, cat's have 9 lives. ;)

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Clown, cat's have 9 lives. ;)

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Wasn't that the point of the experiment? To prove that?