What proven talent is available that you would trade for?
Printable View
Great idea
Jorge I suggested this before, since you are so glad i'm not the GM, how about we have a little competition. I challenge you to build a Yankees team using the players and farm system we currently have, all trade have to be approved by this trade simulator https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/ and we would have to agree on a payroll cap. I would suggest the luxury tax threshold of around 210m like the Yanks seem to be planning on doing. Whichever team finishes with the higher WAR wins. Pick an assistant GM or 2 and i'll do the same.
If u want to make a wager, not money because i believe its against the rules, something like the loser has to acknowledge the loss and not post for a month. We could even make it like 81 games if you wanted to do a shorter season so we could get a winner sooner
What do you say Jorge? it should be a piece of cake for you since i know so little about baseball like you've said and you have it all figured out what they shouldn't do this off season. Can you backup all your ideas or lack there of and actually prove it with players and their performances?
Yanks have signed Nestor Cortes again, that should make our BP elite next yr
Gray could be traded for , I would trade for him before I would trade for taillon . Then there is kluber and Paxton that could be signed for cheap , especially kluber . I would also take my chances with Schmidt , Garcia , and king in the rotation than go after taillon .
Sonny Gray? Why? No, seriously, why? We traded for him once. He stunk. We gave him away to Cincy. Now, you want to bring him back. No. Seriously, no.
Well you were proven wrong about German being an upgrade over what they currently have in the rotation behind cole , since cashman did say German would only be used for half a season and all . So I don’t know why you are still harping on this . And I won’t say anything more about this since I was banned shortly after I got into that conversation with you .
[QUOTE=drt1010;33736086]No Jorge that is where you are mistaken, I have repeatedly said prospects serve in multiple ways, on the field if they make it to bigs and as trade chips to attract proven ML talent. Most minor league talent never gets past AAA.[/QUOTE
And how is taillon a proven player worth using said trade chips for?
The only thing he has proven is that he is not durable and his elbow is a ticking time bomb .
I agreed with you that some prospects should be used as trade chips for PROVEN players and taillon is not that at all . Heck even gray is a proven player . And again I would trade for gray before I would even think about trading for taillon .
This biggest mistake in last year or so was moving Torres to SS. He was settled and producing. I don’t care about DJ and 2b either. Torres should be around another 10 years and 2b should be his position and where is DJ in 10 years anyway? He is just a Jimmy Key, David Cone, Scott Brosius and Paulie type of a much needed veteran that stays healthy.
If you want DJ then trade Voit and stop worrying about the damn homeruns.
In all reality this roster is just too snakebitten with injury. Hicks said he is STILL NOT 100% and doesn’t feel right.
Judge, Stanton, Hicks...they are all cut out from the same mold with regards to injuries. That alone puts potholes within the roster. It will never be at 100% strength to win multiple championships. Every so often a year is clean and they will have that 105 win type season and continue to be hot in Oct but once Spring rolls around the roster is scared by Opening Day and replacement player selection has to be right or they stumble and fumble during April and May.
1) you didn't get an infraction for that comment whatsoever and you know that. U got it for baiting, trolling and being generally disruptive to multiple posters for 2-3 pages after u made that comment. Also it was the total amount of your infractions that got you banned for a couple weeks not i single comment. You weren't the victim there
2) How does Cashman saying that they only plan on using German for half the season prove I was wrong about him being an upgrade BEHIND Cole? Cole is our staff leader and ace, so everyone, including the BP would be behind Cole. Even a half yr of German pitching in the 5th spot is an upgrade over guys like King, Yajure, Lasagna and Nelson who would currently be in line for that 5th spot. You're still failing to grasp that, unless you think 1 of those 3 or some other kid from the farm would be better than German. If thats your line of thinking...wow
3) you continuously criticize other people's comments and opinions so why don't you prove that i'm so wrong and u actually know what u are talking about. You spend enough time on here so that can't be the issue. Put your ideas on the line and prove you know more than me. For as little as you think of my ideas it shouldn't be difficult for you to win
Something else you are failing to factor in is the cost prospect wise of these trade proposals. Gray has been a TORP in Cincy and is signed for cheaply for multiple yrs, he will cost a ton prospect wise, atleast 2-3 top specs and a couple high ceiling lottery tickets. Tallion, while still have tremendous POTENTIAL and upside, will cost a fraction of what Gray would cost. Low risk, high reward. If he doesn't make make a huge impact or gets hurt they wouldn't have given away multiple top specs, so it wouldn't be a huge loss.
Its kind of shocking that you want to get a proven pitcher without a big risk and then say you would take Gray back. As good as Gray has been in OAK and Cincy, he was terrible here. That would be a massive risk giving up the kind of package it would require to get Gray again and counting on him not to fall flat again in NY a 2nd time. Why would he succeed now when he failed so badly last time? I just don't get the logic there
Kluber has only pitched 36 innings in the last 2yrs so he comes with huge risk as well, which is why a pitcher with his talent and pedigree is available at such a discount
Is this the same Paxton you spent all last yr complaining about and said you weren't interested in bringing him back at any price? Same guy right? He lost around 5MPH on his FB and saw his spin rates decline sharply in all his pitches. Plus he has an incredibly checkered injury history and you really think he a much safer bet than Tallion?
You'd also seriously take King who at his best will be a 4th/5th starter / long reliever over the potential Jameson would bring ? Atleast with Jameson he has the potential to be a TORP or even an elite reliever if he stays healthy
You have your idea's and criticize most everyone else's, step up and put your money where your mouth is and prove to everyone your ideas are valid. Come on Jorge i could be alot of fun
“The Yankees will spend to a degree, probably not much beyond LeMahieu if they get that done” -
@Ken_Rosenthal