Yankee off season thread, news, notes, rumors and ideas

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

Lindor vs DJ?

Lindor

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Originally Posted by EAGLES3658

I think Sevy can be that #2 in the future but I wouldn't count on it this season. He will need time to build his arm back up and shake off the rust.

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Agree, they both will.

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

I don't think German is an innings eater. He always seemed to be deep in counts and a hit away from a big inning.
If he wants to eat innings, he needs to get quicker outs.

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True he does go too deep in counts. I should have said will GIVE you innings, last season in 24 starts he went 143 IP. Tanaka went 180 in 31 starts to lead the staff. German average innings per start = 5.958. Tanaka = 5.806.

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Originally Posted by dayners81

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Have to agree. Given his age and contract demands, DJ is negotiating himself out of the Bronx. Imo Yankees will miss his bat and clutch performance.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

True he does go too deep in counts. I should have said will GIVE you innings, last season in 24 starts he went 143 IP. Tanaka went 180 in 31 starts to lead the staff. German average innings per start = 5.958. Tanaka = 5.806.

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Actually as a starting pitcher in 2019 german pitched 134.2 innings giving him an average of 5.59 innings per start . That is less than tanaka’s 5.80 innings per start .

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Actually as a starting pitcher in 2019 german pitched 134.2 innings giving him an average of 5.59 innings per start . That is less than tanaka’s 5.80 innings per start .

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Check the stats Jorge. Baseball Reference has it at 143. He made 24 starts and 27 appearances. Are you splitting hairs and claiming the innings not as a starter? When Yanks may have used an opener? If thats the case the same applies to Tanaka he has one more appearance than start.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...ermado01.shtml

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Check the stats Jorge. Baseball Reference has it at 143. He made 24 starts and 27 appearances. Are you splitting hairs and claiming the innings not as a starter? When Yanks may have used an used an opener? If thats the case the same applies to Tanaka he has one more appearance than start.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...ermado01.shtml

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You check the stats again , he did start 24 games but he pitched in 27 , that means he pitched in relief for 3 games , and in those 3 games he pitched a total of 8.1 innings . And since we were talking about his 24 starts then we must then only talk about he innings he threw as a starter , which is 134.2 . Divide that by 24 and you get 5.59 innings per Start . And you were specifically talking about innings per Start . Now to be fair in 2019 Tanaka started 31 games and pitched 3 innings as a reliever . So it would be 179 divided by 31 which would give Tanaka an average of 7.77 innings per start . Still higher than German .

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Originally Posted by Posada20

You check the stats again , he did start 24 games but he pitched in 27 , that means he pitched in relief for 3 games , and in those 3 games he pitched a total of 8.1 innings . And since we were talking about his 24 starts then we must then only talk about he innings he threw as a starter , which is 134.2 . Divide that by 24 and you get 5.59 innings per Start . And you were specifically talking about innings per Start . Now to be fair in 2019 Tanaka started 31 games and pitched 3 innings as a reliever . So it would be 179 divided by 31 which would give Tanaka an average of 7.77 innings per start . Still higher than German .

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179 / 31 = 5.77.

Your point is taken. However I would argue if the so called "relief" appearance was in games Yankees used an opener wasn't German in fact the starter.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

179 / 31 = 5.77.

Your point is taken. However I would argue if the so called "relief" appearance was in games Yankees used an opener wasn't German in fact the starter.

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Not according to there statistics since it clearly says German started 24 of the 27 games he pitched in and Tanaka started 31 games of the 32 games he pitched in . So I believe we can assume neither was used as openers or openers are considered relievers and not starting pitchers .

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Not according to there statistics since it clearly says German started 24 of the 27 games he pitched in and Tanaka started 31 games of the 32 games he pitched in . So I believe we can assume neither was used as openers or openers are considered relievers and not starting pitchers .

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No, not used as the opener, but came in after the opener and pitched the bulk of the middle innings, say 2-7th. Who was actually the starter?

I'll take five and a half innings per start for 24 starts with 18 wins and 4 losses, winning 3/4 of the starts and only losing 1/6 of them or better yet 5 1/2 innings per start for 30 to 32 starts with a 24-5 record. He'll do just fine.

Of course, you can never predict how many innings he can pitch over the course of the full season, so you probably want to consider him as starter for the first half of the season and then as the pitcher after the opener in the second half.

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Originally Posted by johnnyi

I'll take five and a half innings per start for 24 starts with 18 wins and 4 losses, winning 3/4 of the starts and only losing 1/6 of them or better yet 5 1/2 innings per start for 30 to 32 starts with a 24-5 record. He'll do just fine.

Of course, you can never predict how many innings he can pitch over the course of the full season, so you probably want to consider him as starter for the first half of the season and then as the pitcher after the opener in the second half.

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Which may actually be their plan considering Cashmans comments regarding German's workload being reduced in terms of starts.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

No, not used as the opener, but came in after the opener and pitched the bulk of the middle innings, say 2-7th. Who was actually the starter?

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Who ever started the game is the starting pitcher.....period.

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Originally Posted by YANKSGUY

Who ever started the game is the starting pitcher.....period.

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Technically, but in name only. For the purpose of our discussion it was more about innings pitched. Imo it is of less relevance if the "opener" starts and pitches 1 inning and German comes in to pitch 5-6.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Can Sevy be that #2? Can German eat innings and give quality to boot?

I think many of us underestimate the loss of those two this past season. Had Yankees had either in post season to send out in game two rather than a green Garcia, season outcome may have been very different. imo.

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If Sevy ad German are our answers, then we are in big trouble.

The short answer is Sevy hasn't pitched in 3 years. Nobody knows what he will be? Maybe he will be Matt Harvey. Either way, I don't see him contributing much in 2021.

German is another question mark that hasn't pitched in 2 years. He had one very good year for us, but I never really looked at him as a TORP. He just doesn't have the ability to pitch deep enough. And, his 7+ ERA in the Dominican league is given me no reason to trust him. Either way, I don't see him contributing in 2021, unless he's in the BP.