Yankee off season thread, news, notes, rumors and ideas

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Originally Posted by Posada20

I am willing to bet that until 2 months ago dodgers fans didn’t think of kershaw as an ace...

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I live in SoCal and married to a dodgers fan, you are very very very VERY wrong

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Andy pettitte was 23 when he made his playoff debut on 1995 . And he went on to pitch a 1-0 master piece in game 5 of the 96 World Series at the age of 24 . So the age excuse doesn’t really fly to be honest . No one is doubting that sevy is a very good pitcher with great stuff at times . He just hasn’t been able to put it all together yet to be considered an ace . And he will be 27 in about 2 months and will be 28 by the time he is a full time starter again with no limitations . And nowhere did I say his career is over or set in stone . I have only been saying is that he is not a proven ace.

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But his first World Series start went a little differently. 2.1 IP 7 ER.

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Andy pettitte was 23 when he made his playoff debut on 1995 . And he went on to pitch a 1-0 master piece in game 5 of the 96 World Series at the age of 24 . So the age excuse doesn’t really fly to be honest . No one is doubting that sevy is a very good pitcher with great stuff at times . He just hasn’t been able to put it all together yet to be considered an ace . And he will be 27 in about 2 months and will be 28 by the time he is a full time starter again with no limitations . And nowhere did I say his career is over or set in stone . I have only been saying is that he is not a proven ace.

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Maddux had a post season era of 8.10 until he was 29...

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Originally Posted by RJYANKS12

But his first World Series start went a little differently. 2.1 IP 7 ER.

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And in the same World Series 4 games later he pitched that game I talked about

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Originally Posted by dayners81

Exactly my point about Pettitte and the playoffs. We've had 1 pitcher of that age range to perform well in the playoffs in the last 20 plus season. Most pitchers don't even enter the league at that age much less have to 2 absolutely dominate yrs. Across the league how many pitchers in recent memory other than Madbum have excelled immediately in the playoffs? Bieber is 25, coming off a CY young yr and got shelled in the playoffs, it happens to young pitchers, even the ones that end up being Aces

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Some people can't understand what it is to have learning experience because they refuse to have one for themselves.

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Originally Posted by Jones

Sevy definitely was an Ace (or at least on track to be an ace when he matured) in 2017 and 2018 through the all star break. IMO, the guy hid the elbow issue which occurred around the all star break in 2018.

He was so young in the 2017 playoffs and it was his first time there so I give him a pass.

He would be the perfect #2 behind Cole.

With that being said, his future is unknown. 2+ years of injuries. 2 years left on his contract. He really can’t be counted on as a rotation savior.

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If he fully returns, which there is no reason he won't and provided his shoulder issue was truly a minor issue and rooted in the elbow issue, he absolutely has the physical stuff to be an ace. He's yet to show the mental aspect.. He looks the part. He looks like he has the killer instinct when he gets into a tight spot but the he'd and the body go different directions.
If he can get his head right, he will be a TORP guy for sure and he and Cole will be a very nice 1-2 punch.

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Originally Posted by Posada20

I am willing to bet that until 2 months ago dodgers fans didn’t think of kershaw as an ace...

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Then I might suggest they watch even less baseball than you.

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Ok to be more exact it was Brian cashman that proved my point about German and thus proving Dayners wrong . Remember cashman said German would only be used for half a season with limitations .and last I checked a part time starter with limitations is hardly an upgrade over 3 or 4 younger kids who are currently slated to be FULL TIME starters next season....

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Just because something is stated in DECEMBER doesn't mean things can't change 4 months from now. Until we see how he pitches, you've proven NOTHING.

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Originally Posted by YANKSGUY

Just because something is stated in DECEMBER doesn't mean things can't change 4 months from now. Until we see how he pitches, you've proven NOTHING.

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What limited intellect, manure farmers often fail to understand is simple language and word definitions. They fail to comprehend the word upgrade. They fail to comprehend that even in a season when a pitcher has limitations, he can still be an improvement and upgrade to the rotation and in it. He can still be a better pitcher than the ones previously or currently there.

They also don't really understand the word "prove" or "fact". It's easy to ignore those definitions when you live like a coward.


Both Sevy and German, if they pitch to ability, are upgrades to the rotation behind Cole. (That should really confuse them. How can two guys be behind Cole? My goodness, the brain must be melting)
Even if German and or Sevy pitch 80-90 innings, if they pitches better than who was there, its is by definition and upgrade to the rotation.
Will there contribution be greater than Pax, Happ, Monty, Lasanga, King...? If they pitch to ability, absolutely. If they don't? We don't know. It could still be an upgrade and it may not be one.

NJ.com | Randy Miller: Bob Nightengale is reporting that DJ LeMahieu is asking for five years at $100 million, while the Yankees have offered four years at $75 million

i would not give the 33 year old next year dj a 5 year deal... under any circumstance.. 3 years would be ideal.. eve at 20 million..a year..

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

What limited intellect, manure farmers often fail to understand is simple language and word definitions. They fail to comprehend the word upgrade. They fail to comprehend that even in a season when a pitcher has limitations, he can still be an improvement and upgrade to the rotation and in it. He can still be a better pitcher than the ones previously or currently there.

They also don't really understand the word "prove" or "fact". It's easy to ignore those definitions when you live like a coward.


Both Sevy and German, if they pitch to ability, are upgrades to the rotation behind Cole. (That should really confuse them. How can two guys be behind Cole? My goodness, the brain must be melting)
Even if German and or Sevy pitch 80-90 innings, if they pitches better than who was there, its is by definition and upgrade to the rotation.
Will there contribution be greater than Pax, Happ, Monty, Lasanga, King...? If they pitch to ability, absolutely. If they don't? We don't know. It could still be an upgrade and it may not be one.

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even with a healthy sevy and german are the yanks good enough to win it all next year.. not a chance.. can they make it to the world series 50/50 but winning it all the only thing that matters...

[QUOTE=johnny ny;33738842]even with a healthy sevy and german are the yanks good enough to win it all next year.. not a chance.. can they make it to the world series 50/50 but winning it all the only thing that matters...and besides the yanks starting staff is just but 1 of the 3 issues the yanks have.can the yanks lineup make contact and score runs in close games without the long ball in the playoffs.. the answer is no...also the bullpen has been shaky and is getting older.. can u trust green or chapman in the playoffs the answer would be no.. chapman has lost the last game in the playoffs 2 years in a row for the yanks...

Mets have a deal in place for McCann. What’s the market look like for realmuto now?

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Originally Posted by RJYANKS12

Mets have a deal in place for McCann. What’s the market look like for realmuto now?

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that made no sense signing a lesser catcher in mccann then going after the best catcher in baseball in realmuto..