Yankee off season thread, news, notes, rumors and ideas

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Originally Posted by RJYANKS12

I think a 37 year old Morton is still better than most of the FA pitching options, especially if you factor in the price. Odorizzi for $8?

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However consider his 2020 numbers. Seems Morton may be showing his age?

Over his nine starts in 2020, Morton compiled 38.0 innings, producing a 4.74 ERA (1.69 increase from 2019), 3.89 xERA (0.59 increase), 3.45 FIP (0.64 increase), 4.01 xFIP (0.73 increase), 111 ERA- (increased by 42 points), 80 FIP- (increased by 16 points), 90 xFIP- (increased by 18 points), 1.39 WHIP (0.31 increase), .276 OPP AVG (16th-highest among all starters who completed at least 30.0 innings), .355 BABIP (tied for sixth-highest), 24.7% strikeout rate (5.7% decline), 25.0% whiff rate (4.6% decline), 5.9% walk rate (1.3% decline), and a 0.9 fWAR rating, according to FanGraphs.com.

Additionally, his batted ball metrics also proved to be extremely troubling compared to his 2019 performance, as he recorded a 24.8% LD rate (3.1% increase), 41.6% GB rate (6.6% decline), 33.6% FB rate (3.5% increase), 7.9% barrel rate (3.1% increase), along with a 35.1% hard-hit rate (2.3% increase).

Morton also sustained a slight drop in velocity, which has gradually become a major issue for him since the 2018 campaign. While there’s no question his shoulder inflammation played a factor, it’s still very concerning the former third-round pick started experiencing this problem before suffering his injury in August and couldn’t correct it after returning from the injured list.

All I see are RED flags.
https://metsmerizedonline.com/2020/1...-concern.html/

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Originally Posted by EAGLES3658

Even though I think Sanchez sucks now I would not call him a miss. Most IFAs don't even make the big leagues. At least he was legitimately great at times. Kahnle too, he was excellent for the most part. Tough to predict pitching injuries because most of them get hurt at some point.

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Certainly fair points which I will agree with because they strengthen my case lol.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

However consider his 2020 numbers. Seems Morton may be showing his age?

Over his nine starts in 2020, Morton compiled 38.0 innings, producing a 4.74 ERA (1.69 increase from 2019), 3.89 xERA (0.59 increase), 3.45 FIP (0.64 increase), 4.01 xFIP (0.73 increase), 111 ERA- (increased by 42 points), 80 FIP- (increased by 16 points), 90 xFIP- (increased by 18 points), 1.39 WHIP (0.31 increase), .276 OPP AVG (16th-highest among all starters who completed at least 30.0 innings), .355 BABIP (tied for sixth-highest), 24.7% strikeout rate (5.7% decline), 25.0% whiff rate (4.6% decline), 5.9% walk rate (1.3% decline), and a 0.9 fWAR rating, according to FanGraphs.com.

Additionally, his batted ball metrics also proved to be extremely troubling compared to his 2019 performance, as he recorded a 24.8% LD rate (3.1% increase), 41.6% GB rate (6.6% decline), 33.6% FB rate (3.5% increase), 7.9% barrel rate (3.1% increase), along with a 35.1% hard-hit rate (2.3% increase).

Morton also sustained a slight drop in velocity, which has gradually become a major issue for him since the 2018 campaign. While there’s no question his shoulder inflammation played a factor, it’s still very concerning the former third-round pick started experiencing this problem before suffering his injury in August and couldn’t correct it after returning from the injured list.

All I see are RED flags.
https://metsmerizedonline.com/2020/1...-concern.html/

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Excellently researched. Just trying to play the payroll game. If Bauer is off the table due to cost, what’s the best of the rest? You’re low on Morton, fair. Next best are probably Tanaka, Walker, Odorizzi, and dare I say Paxton? Anything there move the needle?

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Originally Posted by RJYANKS12

You originally said they hadn’t done a lot right, so let’s examine:

Voit? Right
DJ? Right
Torres? Right
Ursh? Right
Sanchez? Miss
Judge? Right
Hicks? Middle of the road
Frazier? Right
Stanton? Miss

So your starting lineup has 2 misses out of 9...

Cole? Right
Tanaka? Right
Happ? Miss
Paxton? Miss
I’m going to say that the rest of the starters are too young to fairly judge, although I’m leaning to calling Sevy right. I’d also say Monty is right FWIW

Chappy? Right
Britton? Right
Green? Right
Otto? Miss
Kahnle? I could make a case either way, but I’ll say miss for arguments sake

So pitching wise, at worst 5 right 4 misses with an argument for 7 and 4.

Please explain to me how they haven’t done a lot right? No, they haven’t won it all but don’t act like we are a bottom feeder that starts the year with no chance

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If Torres is right then why are they looking for a ss? At best it’s too soon to tell with him .
Judge isn’t a right yet either since he has been too injury prone so far and hasn’t really shown up in the playoffs so far. The last two post seasons show that Chapman isn’t totally right anymore , he is losing velocity .
Tanaka is no longer a right after the last two post seasons that showed he was hittable . And bringing him back wouldn’t be a right move either . Green is not right by a long shot , these last two seasons he has shown that when he isn’t striking out hitters he is getting hit hard . Best you can say for him is maybe a middle of the road . And hicks’s mediocre numbers and long list of injuries over the last couple make him a miss . Sevy is a miss until I see what he has when he comes back , at best I would say middle . I won’t call Monty a right either until I see the be more season from him . I would say it’s too soon to go either way with Monty .
Oh and as of right now they are one injury to cole away from being a bottom feeder with no chance . And this last season proved it . Without cole the yanks don’t make the playoffs at all

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Originally Posted by RJYANKS12

I think a 37 year old Morton is still better than most of the FA pitching options, especially if you factor in the price. Odorizzi for $8?

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I would take Morton over Paxton for sure . I am not sure I would take him over Tanaka though .

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Originally Posted by RJYANKS12

Excellently researched. Just trying to play the payroll game. If Bauer is off the table due to cost, what’s the best of the rest? You’re low on Morton, fair. Next best are probably Tanaka, Walker, Odorizzi, and dare I say Paxton? Anything there move the needle?

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Tanaka.

Bauer is the best arm available. He comes with some baggage. His cost will be high and if Hal is to be believed may preclude a deal. Several sources have reported Hal would like to reset the luxury tax penalty and get below the $210M threshold. Will they sign Lindor and let DJ walk? Is the #2 behind Cole more important than DJ? What impact will Sevy and Germans return have on planning? Can you let a GG batting champ walk? (two straight Silver Slugger awards, two top-four MVP finishes, and becoming the first player in the modern era to win the batting title in each league.) Decision, decisions.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Tanaka.

Bauer is the best arm available. He comes with some baggage. His cost will be high and if Hal is to be believed may preclude a deal. Several sources have reported Hal would like to reset the luxury tax penalty and get below the $210M threshold. Will they sign Lindor and let DJ walk? Is the #2 behind Cole more important than DJ? What impact will Sevy and Germans return have on planning? Can you let a GG batting champ walk? (two straight Silver Slugger awards, two top-four MVP finishes, and becoming the first player in the modern era to win the batting title in each league.) Decision, decisions.

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German is not gonna have an impact right away since hal isn’t high on him right now after his suspension . I would rather they let dj, Tanaka and Paxton walk and just spend on Bauer .

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Originally Posted by Posada20

If Torres is right then why are they looking for a ss? At best it’s too soon to tell with him .
Judge isn’t a right yet either since he has been too injury prone so far and hasn’t really shown up in the playoffs so far. The last two post seasons show that Chapman isn’t totally right anymore , he is losing velocity .
Tanaka is no longer a right after the last two post seasons that showed he was hittable . And bringing him back wouldn’t be a right move either . Green is not right by a long shot , these last two seasons he has shown that when he isn’t striking out hitters he is getting hit hard . Best you can say for him is maybe a middle of the road . And hicks’s mediocre numbers and long list of injuries over the last couple make him a miss .
Oh and as of right now they are one injury to cole away from being a bottom feeder with no chance . And this last season proved it . Without cole the yanks don’t make the playoffs at all

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Yep they all suck Jorge. Please answer the simple question posed earlier. How do you plan to sign Bauer and DJ and stay under the cap?

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Yep they all suck Jorge. Please answer the simple question posed earlier. How do you plan to sign Bauer and DJ and stay under the cap?

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I already answered it twice . I said in another thread I would be happy with Simmons if it meant getting Bauer . And just now before in this thread when I said I rather they sign Bauer and let Paxton , dj and Tanaka all walk . Pitching gets you to the ws not another high priced bat . I would think you realized that after they traded for Stanton 3 years ago .

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Originally Posted by Posada20

I already answered it twice . I said I would be happy with Simmons if it meant getting Bauer . And just now before when I said I rather they sign Bauer and let Paxton , dj and Tanaka all walk . Pitching gets you to the ws not another high priced bat . I would think you realized that after they traded for Stanton 3 years ago .

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But...but...but 20 minutes ago you felt differently:

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Originally Posted by Posada20

I would sign Bauer to begin with . Then resign dj . Then I would trade for some bullpen help . And I would trade Sanchez , andujar and some prospects for said bullpen help . And yes I would let both Tanaka and Paxton walk too .

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Originally Posted by drt1010

But...but...but 20 minutes ago you felt differently:

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I was asked what I would do if I were in charge when I said I would sign both dj and Bauer . Obviously I wouldn’t care about going over the tax threshold . Nice try though

huge market team like the dodgers has figured out away to succeed won the world series this year.. and has been in the world series 4 years in a row.... while it's been since 2009 for the yanks. the problem for the yanks failure to even advance to the world series since 2009 brian cashman...

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Originally Posted by johnny ny

huge market team like the dodgers has figured out away to succeed won the world series this year.. and has been in the world series 4 years in a row.... while it's been since 2009 for the yanks. the problem for the yanks failure to even advance to the world series since 2009 brian cashman...

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Actually dodgers lost in the first round in the 19 post season . But other than that I can’t disagree with your statement

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Originally Posted by Posada20

I was asked what I would do if I were in charge when I said I would sign both dj and Bauer . Obviously I wouldn’t care about going over the tax threshold . Nice try though

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Not exactly, but if that's how you want to spin it.

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Originally Posted by RJYANKS12

Please tell me the team you would field for 2021, and how you acquired them.

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To which you responded:

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Originally Posted by Posada20

I would sign Bauer to begin with . Then resign dj . Then I would trade for some bullpen help . And I would trade Sanchez , andujar and some prospects for said bullpen help . And yes I would let both Tanaka and Paxton walk too .

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Employing your logic and reasoning I want Trout, Bieber and DeGrom. Hand and Hader for the pen.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Not exactly, but if that's how you want to spin it.



To which you responded:




Employing your logic and reasoning I want Trout, Bieber and DeGrom. Hand and Hader for the pen.

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Gotta be hard for someone to field a team without having any actual knowledge, of well..anything really.

I guess we're in the presence of some great baseball mind that has spent zero time in any capacity in any way shape or form, in the front office of a baseball team. Quite impressive.

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