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What more do you expect out of Torres, at this point? Clearly, you think there's a lot more to him. Will he hit 45 home runs or more? Will he bat .330? I see neither happening. He's special because of his bat at SS, but even with 38 home runs his WAR was lower than Didi's 2 best seasons as a yankee. I'd hate to lose a player like him, but you gotta give something in order to get something.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAGLES3658
The trade I mentioned is marginally lopsided in the Red's favor, but not by much. I put the trade in the trade sim and:Quote:
Originally Posted by EAGLES3658
Trade accepted
This appears to be a fair trade proposal for each team. Now post it to our Trade Board to see what other users think of it.
https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/
I would like to see what accepted trades others can come up with that does not include Torres.
you cant really be a yankee fan if you seriously are considering trading torres...Quote:
Originally Posted by Webslinger
So willing to trade a player you love makes someone less of Yankees fan? Really ? The Yankees need starting pitching alot more than they need Torres . I don’t really want them to trade torres either but if it were to finally make them have a ws caliber rotation then I would do it . And Castillo likely does that . Plus then they could trade for lindor to replace Torres . No player should be labeled untouchable if a team is in a win now mode . And the Yankees high payroll suggests they are in that mode . Or they would be doing a rebuild insteadQuote:
Originally Posted by johnny ny
If they do that then forget about winning a World Series anytime soon . It amazes me that Hal is willing waste coles best years on his contract just to save 24 million . What a jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by johnny ny
But if they really are gonna do that then they should just trade Sanchez , judge , hicks , Torres , Chapman , Green , and anyone else they can and just start a rebuild already .
It is just sad and pathetic that they wasted the last ten years for nothing
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Originally Posted by Posada20
Yada, yada, yada. Jorge please change the record. (or cd ) It getting old.
If you measure success based solely on WS wins I am afraid no matter what team you root for you will be sadly disappointed.
In the last decade Yankees led all of MLB with 921 regular-season wins, and they made the postseason seven times. They ended the decade on a high with consecutive 100-win seasons.
All those wins didn’t even get them one ws appearance , regular season wins don’t mean a thing once the playoffs starts . In 4 of those 7 times they made the playoffs they failed to even make the alcs . And yeah they won 100 games in 2018 but were destroyed by a team in the divisional series that also won more than 100 games and then in 2019 lost to a team with more than 100 wins as well so tell me are those back to back 100 win seasons really anything to brag about ?Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
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Originally Posted by Posada20
LOL!!! That's not what you asked. You asked what his source was.
You're not getting what I am saying. The kid did that as a 22 year old which is crazy. By no means is a player done progressing at 22 years old. I think it is crazy to expect a kid with this type of talent to be maxed out by the time he is 23.Quote:
Originally Posted by Webslinger
Is the glass always half empty Jorge?
Look, no-one wants the Yankees to win more than I do. No one takes more pride in their winning tradition and history. I am just as disappointed as you in some ways. However I am also a realist. Rather than *****, moan and complain I choose to find the silver linings, and my glass is half full. Yes they have not won a WS in the last decade, however I take solace in them winning more games than any team in MLB. Is that evidence of a FO not committed to winning? You seem to believe it is, I disagree.
The FO will not always make the moves YOU or I believe they should. We are not GM's, nor do our inane ramblings on a message board matter in the grand scheme. Moves will be made in the best interest of the organization in keeping with winning tradition.
If our ramblings on this matter make no difference in the grand scheme then why do you care so much about my views of the front office and team? Why not just brush it off and ignore it? Why are you the only one right now making such a big deal about what I said ?Quote:
Originally Posted by drt1010
And as for taking solace in them winning so many games in the regular season , with more and more teams being added to the playoff brackets , regular season records are starting to become less and less important . Just look at last season , with 8 teams making the playoffs in each league all a teams needed to be to make the playoffs was to finish at .500 or better .
Yet the teams with the two best records ended up appearing in the World Series....
[QUOTE=spliff(TONE);33752391]Yet the teams with the two best records ended up appearing in the World Series....[
And in 2019 , the last full season of baseball it was a wildcard team that won the World Series .
Two issues. One this last season was an anomaly, you shouldn't put too much stock in the outcomeQuote:
Originally Posted by Posada20
Two. I agree and have made the claim numerous time regarding the expanded post season. The regular seasons significance becomes minimized, in fact starting to resemble hockey and the NBA. I am totally against expanded post season for that very reason. Less and less import on the regular season. The MLB is trying to attract a younger audience, be careful you risk losing the diehard old farts who actually love the game!
So what should become of the regular season? Should it be mainly a preliminary seeding for post season play, akin to hockey? Should it be shortened to less than 100 games? Mine skin crawls at the thought.
At least the division winner is still rewarded....kinda.