Yankee off season thread, news, notes, rumors and ideas

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Link is behind a pay wall. Could you copy and paste what you feel is most relevant and germane to discussion. Thanks.

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“The most surprising thing about the way the Yankees have managed Domingo Germán’s return to the team is that team officials appear to have expected it to go smoothly. Members of the coaching staff and front office were surprised when respected reliever Zack Britton responded to a question about Germán by saying that “sometimes you don’t get to control who your teammates are.” Some in the Yankees organization were surprised by Britton’s straightforward tone and wondered if the sentiment was his alone or if the feeling was more widespread among players.

Britton is the only member of the Yankees to say anything publicly that indicates a discomfort with having Germán on the team, but one common truism about baseball players is that even in the heat of the moment, they rarely go rogue.”

Going by that much alone , I can tell you that the front office was stupid to not have dumped German 2 years ago right after he got suspended . Because only a moron could possibly think things would go smoothly with German returning after everything he has put them through since then. I mean he was even causing him distractions last season with his stupid tweets

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Jorge lets not go down this road again. Suffice to say, different people have different feelings on the issue. If I recall you were not a member of the forum during the Chapman debacle.

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No I wasn’t but I am telling everyone how my feelings were 2 years ago when German got suspended and when Chapman got extended . And yes , different people have different feelings but you are the only one who has atleast openly admitted to defending German .

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Originally Posted by OhSoSlick

I think there is a difference because one was actually a Yankee at time of incident, one was not.

One actually also took place at an event where Yankees players and front office members were attending and apparently a Yankees teammate and his wife went to Germans house to calm him down because his S/O was scared to the point she locked herself in a room at their house.

So I do believe it is more personal for some.

I also think there is more to it than just that, maybe it's the way German had handled it within the lockerroom.

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This is true but the thing I do not understand or just think is stupid is that in any sport, when a player messes up like this there is always pressure on the team to release him. Knowing damn well that another team is 100% going to sign him and give him a second chance. So why should a team give a player to another team for free because he messed up? Why can't the team who signed him and paid him for years be the team that gives him a second chance?

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Originally Posted by EAGLES3658

This is true but the thing I do not understand or just think is stupid is that in any sport, when a player messes up like this there is always pressure on the team to release him. Knowing damn well that another team is 100% going to sign him and give him a second chance. So why should a team give a player to another team for free because he messed up? Why can't the team who signed him and paid him for years be the team that gives him a second chance?

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The answer to that question is simply in the media headaches that German has caused since he was suspended . And the reason why it’s so easy for another team to give that player a second chance is simply because whatever that player did , he did it while on another team not theirs . It’s better pr for another team to give said player a second chance than for the team he was on to do so because for a player to remain on the team after doing what German did it will look like that team doesn’t care and is trying to sweep it under the rug or even condoned such actions . And let us not forget that in today’s “ woke” culture , things that were dismissed just 3 years ago are now an even bigger deal now .

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Originally Posted by Posada20

No I wasn’t but I am telling everyone how my feelings were 2 years ago when German got suspended and when Chapman got extended . And yes , different people have different feelings but you are the only one who has atleast openly admitted to defending German .

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Let it go.

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Originally Posted by EAGLES3658

This is true but the thing I do not understand or just think is stupid is that in any sport, when a player messes up like this there is always pressure on the team to release him. Knowing damn well that another team is 100% going to sign him and give him a second chance. So why should a team give a player to another team for free because he messed up? Why can't the team who signed him and paid him for years be the team that gives him a second chance?

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Excellent point.
I think it's simply the publicity that. would come with keeping him. It's easier to wash your hands and say, We did the right thing in the public eye by releasing him.
The team that picks him up can say, he served his time and we believe he deserves another chance and we will watch him closely.
Both sides look good.

Wrong thread.

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

Excellent point.
I think it's simply the publicity that. would come with keeping him. It's easier to wash your hands and say, We did the right thing in the public eye by releasing him.
The team that picks him up can say, he served his time and we believe he deserves another chance and we will watch him closely.
Both sides look good.

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All I can say is that the Yankees dropped the ball with German but whatever

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Let it go.

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No doc, You always defend domestic abusers.

On a serious note, I didn't defend or crucify him. I wanted to wait and see what happened before having an opinion. We still don't really know but it sounds worse than they made it sound and it certainly sounds now like it merited the suspension he received.

Chapman's was different. It seemed more threatening than physical. There was physicality but nowhere near to the extent of what it now seems like German's was.

As you said, impulse control. Hopefully he has learned it because if not? He's in for a rough ride for the rest of his life.

Luke Voit on Domingo Germán: "We have his back but he's skating on thin ice and needs to get his life together."

https://twitter.com/MaxTGoodman/stat...920715778?s=19

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Luke Voit on Domingo Germán: "We have his back but he's skating on thin ice and needs to get his life together."

https://twitter.com/MaxTGoodman/stat...920715778?s=19

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I really like Voit's leadership. He is growing in that aspect. He's got that same blue collar quality Gardner has but he's more vocal. I give Cash credit for giving him a shot. I hope he continues to improve in all areas of the game.

I am not going to defend German's actions, because they are reprehensible. However, the time to cut him loose was when it happened and we don't have all the facts or the result of the investigation. We just know that the outcome was an angry man who slapped his wife.

Suppose she was drunk and started to talk penis size, dissing his mother and his ancestry, calling him the n-word and he just found out that she slept with his brother or another teammate, would that change your mind, even a little bit. Sounds far-fetched, I know, but all things are possible.

The point is that the Yankees made a decision a year and a half ago to counsel him and rehabilitate him and keep him gainfully employed. Now that he lost a year plus in earnings and did everything they asked of him, should we now say that he's not worth a second chance. There are people guilty of sexual assault or accused of murder playing professional sports, who IMO are far worse than someone who spent a year and a half rehabilitating and paying his debt. Yes, he's on thin ice and unfortunately that's the case for anyone who commits a crime and serves time, etc.

Also, does the fact that he's a man who slapped a woman have anything to do with the lack of forgiveness. If Serena catches her husband flirting with another girl and slaps him, would she be immediately suspended from all tournaments for the rest of that season like German was suspended for post season play and would the Tennis Federation prevent her from any competition for the next year and when she was reinstated, would we prevent her from ever playing tennis again. Is it a different example because she slapped a man, especially given how strong a human she is. What if Megan Rapinoe slapped her girlfriend?

At some point people are given second chances.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Luke Voit on Domingo Germán: "We have his back but he's skating on thin ice and needs to get his life together."

https://twitter.com/MaxTGoodman/stat...920715778?s=19

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More complete statement from Voit:

“He messed up in life, he’s getting a second chance at this and we have his back, but he’s skating on thin ice and he needs to get his life together,” first baseman Luke Voit said. "I think he's doing the right steps to do so, but again, he's got to prove to us that he can do that."

“(Domestic violence) is a problem that’s going on in our world and our country, and we’ve got to figure out ways to get better. Obviously, I want German to get better. He’s my teammate and obviously he’s a friend, so we’ll be there for him. But we don’t condone it. He messed up and a lot of guys look at him differently now. But I believe in second chances and the guy deserves a second chance. I hope he’s taking the right steps to do what he needs to do better with his family. I’m grateful that he came and apologized to us and the organization. So he’s making strides, but there’s a lot more left in his career and in his life and hopefully he makes the right decisions.”

https://www.si.com/mlb/yankees/news/...ension-apology

Well I for one won’t be cheering for him this season . And no I am not rooting for him to fail either . They should have dumped him right after it happened . Because now unless he has a great season he will be a distraction all season . And the big question all season will be if German will succumb to the pressure he is under now . If the Yankees were smart they would keep him in the bullpen for atleast the first half of the season .

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Originally Posted by johnnyi

I am not going to defend German's actions, because they are reprehensible. However, the time to cut him loose was when it happened and we don't have all the facts or the result of the investigation. We just know that the outcome was an angry man who slapped his wife.

Suppose she was drunk and started to talk penis size, dissing his mother and his ancestry, calling him the n-word and he just found out that she slept with his brother or another teammate, would that change your mind, even a little bit. Sounds far-fetched, I know, but all things are possible.

The point is that the Yankees made a decision a year and a half ago to counsel him and rehabilitate him and keep him gainfully employed. Now that he lost a year plus in earnings and did everything they asked of him, should we now say that he's not worth a second chance. There are people guilty of sexual assault or accused of murder playing professional sports, who IMO are far worse than someone who spent a year and a half rehabilitating and paying his debt. Yes, he's on thin ice and unfortunately that's the case for anyone who commits a crime and serves time, etc.

Also, does the fact that he's a man who slapped a woman have anything to do with the lack of forgiveness. If Serena catches her husband flirting with another girl and slaps him, would she be immediately suspended from all tournaments for the rest of that season like German was suspended for post season play and would the Tennis Federation prevent her from any competition for the next year and when she was reinstated, would we prevent her from ever playing tennis again. Is it a different example because she slapped a man, especially given how strong a human she is. What if Megan Rapinoe slapped her girlfriend?

At some point people are given second chances.

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To the bolded, honestly? No. It would make me question him even more. If that'a the first time that happens, there is zero reason to hit her. If it's the second, third... there's no reason to be with her.
Words should never be the cause of violence unless those words are posed in an immediate threat and the individual presents as someone who will carry out the acts.
If that is your GF? You walk away and if she becomes physical, I think restraining her to protect yourself is fine.
I think there are extreme cases when all bets are off but in now way did German's situation present that way. I also believe that action in the form of defense is fine, including defense of others.

I fully agree about second chances. I think part of being able to walk a way or break up with someone has to do with having the mental tools to understand a situation and see options. I don't think he had the tools to deal with it in an acceptable way. Hopefully he is truly dealing with the issue and hopefully if he does it again, someone in the clubhouse kicks the crap out of him

Personally, I thought his apology was rehearsed and somewhat insincere. Hopefully that was just a result of already dealing with this teammates and getting through the emotions that would certainly rise up from such an embarrassing conversation

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

To the bolded, honestly? No. It would make me question him even more. If that'a the first time that happens, there is zero reason to hit her. If it's the second, third... there's no reason to be with her.
Words should never be the cause of violence unless those words are posed in an immediate threat and the individual presents as someone who will carry out the acts.
If that is your GF? You walk away and if she becomes physical, I think restraining her to protect yourself is fine.
I think there are extreme cases when all bets are off but in now way did German's situation present that way. I also believe that action in the form of defense is fine, including defense of others.

I fully agree about second chances. I think part of being able to walk a way or break up with someone has to do with having the mental tools to understand a situation and see options. I don't think he had the tools to deal with it in an acceptable way. Hopefully he is truly dealing with the issue and hopefully if he does it again, someone in the clubhouse kicks the crap out of him

Personally, I thought his apology was rehearsed and somewhat insincere. Hopefully that was just a result of already dealing with this teammates and getting through the emotions that would certainly rise up from such an embarrassing conversation

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I understand what you are saying about the bolded and slapping her, as I said, is still reprehensible. I'm just saying, there could be some unknown reason that he snapped, not just that she ordered him the fish when he wanted the chicken. There was some kind of dynamics in play that we are not privy to. I agree if she exhibited egregious behavior, he should just walk away, but I suppose that too is difficult with the mother of his child. I agree that he didn't have the mental tools to deal with it. I also think that all public apologies are probably cleared by the organization's ghost writers, if the organization is the one who wants the individual to apologize and I don't know if there is any kind of language barrier that prevents him from showing the same emotion that he would in his native tongue.

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Well I for one won’t be cheering for him this season . And no I am not rooting for him to fail either . They should have dumped him right after it happened . Because now unless he has a great season he will be a distraction all season . And the big question all season will be if German will succumb to the pressure he is under now . If the Yankees were smart they would keep him in the bullpen for atleast the first half of the season .

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And the FACT that you won't cheer for a player on your SO CALLED favorite team says everything about you that we already know. So when he pitches you want to see him get smacked around. Is that about it? PATHETIC!!! How do even call yourself a fan?

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Originally Posted by johnnyi

I understand what you are saying about the bolded and slapping her, as I said, is still reprehensible. I'm just saying, there could be some unknown reason that he snapped, not just that she ordered him the fish when he wanted the chicken. There was some kind of dynamics in play that we are not privy to. I agree if she exhibited egregious behavior, he should just walk away, but I suppose that too is difficult with the mother of his child. I agree that he didn't have the mental tools to deal with it. I also think that all public apologies are probably cleared by the organization's ghost writers, if the organization is the one who wants the individual to apologize and I don't know if there is any kind of language barrier that prevents him from showing the same emotion that he would in his native tongue.

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Agreed. We don't know what happened and her behavior could have been really bad.

I just hope he's learning how to walk away from that stuff.

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

Agreed. We don't know what happened and her behavior could have been really bad.

I just hope he's learning how to walk away from that stuff.

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Impulse control.

No excuse. It speaks to a developmental void.

Yankees’ Aaron Hicks feeling ‘100 percent’ with big home run goal
By Dan Martin February 25, 2021 | 10:30pm | Updated

TAMPA — Aaron Hicks said his right elbow feels “night and day” from how it felt in 2020, when he struggled following Tommy John surgery the previous offseason.

“I definitely feel like it’s 100 percent right now, just with the way I’m able to throw to bases,’’ Hicks said.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/25/yankee...-john-surgery/

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Originally Posted by drt1010

Yankees’ Aaron Hicks feeling ‘100 percent’ with big home run goal
By Dan Martin February 25, 2021 | 10:30pm | Updated

TAMPA — Aaron Hicks said his right elbow feels “night and day” from how it felt in 2020, when he struggled following Tommy John surgery the previous offseason.

“I definitely feel like it’s 100 percent right now, just with the way I’m able to throw to bases,’’ Hicks said.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/25/yankee...-john-surgery/

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How about hit for average, doubles and RBI a d learn how to hit to the situation?

This game is going down the toilet before our eyes. It's becoming a 3 outcome sport. There is no strategy left. No steals, bunts, scarifies... HR, Walk, K

With that said, at some point a team is going to adjust to the game that plays to the 3 outcome result, by moving runners, stealing and doing all the other little things that made the game great. The pendulum always swings back

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

How about hit for average, doubles and RBI a d learn how to hit to the situation?

This game is going down the toilet before our eyes. It's becoming a 3 outcome sport. There is no strategy left. No steals, bunts, scarifies... HR, Walk, K

With that said, at some point a team is going to adjust to the game that plays to the 3 outcome result, by moving runners, stealing and doing all the other little things that made the game great. The pendulum always swings back

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I thought the important take was his elbow feeling 100%, or that was my read. Being able to throw and swing the bat without pain or fear.

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Originally Posted by drt1010

I thought the important take was his elbow feeling 100%, or that was my read. Being able to throw and swing the bat without pain or fear.

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Fair point and certainly more optimistic than my take.
It's great he's 100%. I presumed he already was feeling that way and has been for a while.
I think Hicks is at his peak, so hopefully he stays that way but history does not favor him.
I'm just tired of guys talking about hitting 30+ a d at least making it seem that, that is their primary goal.

I heard that hicks bulked up . Not sure that is a good thing .

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Originally Posted by Posada20

I heard that hicks bulked up . Not sure that is a good thing .

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Even if you thought it was a good thing you'd find a way to make a negative comment about it

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Originally Posted by dayners81

Even if you thought it was a good thing you'd find a way to make a negative comment about it

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Why are you responding to me ? I thought we agreed we wouldn’t respond to each other anymore

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Why are you responding to me ? I thought we agreed we wouldn’t respond to each other anymore

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i was unaware we were doing that again.

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Originally Posted by Posada20

Why are you responding to me ? I thought we agreed we wouldn’t respond to each other anymore

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Here's a thought. If you don't want to be responded to....DON'T POST. That will solve your problem. Someone as negative as you are is going to get responses.

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Originally Posted by dayners81

i was unaware we were doing that again.

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He figures if you don't respond, what he said must be correct. Makes him feel better about himself.

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Originally Posted by YANKSGUY

Here's a thought. If you don't want to be responded to....DON'T POST. That will solve your problem. Someone as negative as you are is going to get responses.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but if they weren't supposed to respond to one another, why did he respond?
It seems to me that by responding he broke his own declaration.

That would be truly shocking. He's never done anything like that ever.

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Originally Posted by dayners81

i was unaware we were doing that again.

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Funny that he responded to you after saying you aren't supposed to respond to each other.

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Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown

Funny that he responded to you after saying you aren't supposed to respond to each other.

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He has a tendency of using oxymorons.

Like when he says defense is important to him in regards to catchers, yet has a love affair with Posada, who uhhh was not a defensive catcher.

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Originally Posted by OhSoSlick

He has a tendency of using oxymorons.

Like when he says defense is important to him in regards to catchers, yet has a love affair with Posada, who uhhh was not a defensive catcher.

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I never said Posada was a great defensive catcher but he was a great defensive catcher compared to Sanchez ....
I loved Posada for his work ethic and his ability to take charge of a situation on the mound .

I loved girardi too and he was known more for his defense than his bat .

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Originally Posted by 808yankee

I like where this is going, Yankees are finally addressing their needs. Getting Brantley and LeMahieu adds 2 .300 bats. Some contact bats in between their sluggers for the postseason.

I also think getting Allen is an underrated move especially for postseason. Our sluggers have no problem getting to first base, via the walk but have had trouble getting into scoring position. Allen can pinch run and steal some bases. I'd think he's a good late inning defensive substitution as well.

Let's see what they do with pitching.

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Allen's making a mockery of my words, I should've said regular season lol