OFFICIAL G.O.A.T Peak Rankings - #12

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Originally Posted by NYKalltheway

Should be a question between Baylor, Erving, Walton, Tmac and Barkley... Yet everyone focuses on the past 5 seasons lol

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The more i think about how the game is played today, I wonder if we went too heavy on bigs early. Hes asking us to build a team for today

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Originally Posted by KnicksorBust

Wings:
Kobe = resume
Curry = captain of the greatest regular season team
Durant = Finals dominator
Kawhi = best 2 player / finals mvp
Giannis = best "stats" regular season player.

I'm torn on the wings. How do you guys rank them?

I can't vote for Giannis but the other 4 are all deserving here. I almost feel like because Russell went at #11 that Bill Walton should go at #12.

Plus when do the gaggle of PF (KG/Dirk/Barkley/Malone) all go and do they go as a package deal or is there separation in between them? Thoughts?

Then you have Big O / West / Baylor that dominated their eras and Big O and West could shoot so I'm not really that concerned about if their games would translate. Soooo... I've narrowed it down to those 12 guys. lmao

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Gimme Kawhi then. I think his apex was his last year with the Spurs before the Zaza incident, he was the rightful MVP of the league and was putting a scare into GS before that. T-Dot sealed that level of play and hes been a true 2-way monster for the Clips. I'd take any of these over your swings

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Originally Posted by Chronz

Gimme Kawhi then. I think his apex was his last year with the Spurs before the Zaza incident, he was the rightful MVP of the league and was putting a scare into GS before that. T-Dot sealed that level of play and hes been a true 2-way monster for the Clips. I'd take any of these over your swings

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Shockingly I think I agree with this. Why wouldn't you want Kawhi? He gives you everything and takes away nothing.

officially casting my vote for kl

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Originally Posted by NYKalltheway

Should be a question between Baylor, Erving, Walton, Tmac and Barkley... Yet everyone focuses on the past 5 seasons lol

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Never saw Baylor or Erving. I’ve seen some full games of Walton on tape and feel like it is possible he should be gone already. As for T-Mac and Chuck I just think KL and prime Dirk were better.


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Originally Posted by KnicksorBust

I'm confused why you would include Baylor and T-Mac over Oscar? :confused:

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It's peak. Oscar was great but what was great about him was consistency. You really don't seem to grasp the idea of PEAK, given that you started all this, do you? :D

The only recent player that should get a shout is Durant. But not this high.

You can't have a GOAT rankings without:
Wilt & Lebron

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Originally Posted by NYKalltheway

It's peak. Oscar was great but what was great about him was consistency. You really don't seem to grasp the idea of PEAK, given that you started all this, do you? :D

The only recent player that should get a shout is Durant. But not this high.

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:)

Played in the same era. Oscar won an MVP. All-around dominant and has stats that clearly show he would be able to translate to the modern game... I know you are older than most people on here but were you old enough to actually watch them play? Everything I have read has Oscar rated as the better player.

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Originally Posted by KnicksorBust

In this thread, yes the purpose is to pretend you are drafting a team to play one game. Career accolades and injury concerns should be thrown out the window. At their absolute best which player would you want to draft based on their skills. You don't get to magically give Booker a 70 point game when he is going to be playing in an all-time game with legends. He wouldn't be able to do that against elite competition and that's why no one would even consider him here. It's not who had the best box score, it is who is the best player.

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This was pretty much my exact response to his post. Jeez, this isn’t retroactive.

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Originally Posted by Chronz

Because hes not gonna have Curry to attract all the attention and in a situation where he must win or be the go to playmaker consistently, he crumbles. Its why when both were on the same team, only 1 player made the monumental difference. KD sits, team plays winning/efficient basketball, Curry sits, team falls off a cliff. Thats been the consistent trend.

In their last year together, when KD got tired of running the free flowing and highjacked it to get his own more often, the team suffered. KD gets hurt, the team goes back to running the team offense with an old Iggy as his replacement and they finish off the Rockets/Blazers with ease to make it back to the Finals and even steal 2 games once there.

If Curry were the one who had gotten hurt, we might've seen the Rockets or Blazers in the Finals and they definitely get swept vs the Raps.

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Is Curry going to be guaranteed to have Kerr coaching and Klay/Dray/AI playing perfectly to his strengths? Curry is right around the corner but Durant is going to be Durant any and everywhere he goes.

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Originally Posted by KnicksorBust

Wings:
Kobe = resume
Curry = captain of the greatest regular season team
Durant = Finals dominator
Kawhi = best 2 player / finals mvp
Giannis = best "stats" regular season player.

I'm torn on the wings. How do you guys rank them?

I can't vote for Giannis but the other 4 are all deserving here. I almost feel like because Russell went at #11 that Bill Walton should go at #12.

Plus when do the gaggle of PF (KG/Dirk/Barkley/Malone) all go and do they go as a package deal or is there separation in between them? Thoughts?

Then you have Big O / West / Baylor that dominated their eras and Big O and West could shoot so I'm not really that concerned about if their games would translate. Soooo... I've narrowed it down to those 12 guys. lmao

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man its close... id go

durant
KL
Giannis
kobe
curry

durant is the easy choice here but haters hate

mix and match after the first 2 any way youd like and i wont argue... hell i wouldnt argue against curry being top 2 here tbh.. there just isnt a wrong choice with these 5 guys

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Originally Posted by KnicksorBust

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Played in the same era. Oscar won an MVP. All-around dominant and has stats that clearly show he would be able to translate to the modern game... I know you are older than most people on here but were you old enough to actually watch them play? Everything I have read has Oscar rated as the better player.

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Oscar Robertson claims that Elgin Baylor is the greatest ever.
Just saying.

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Originally Posted by NYKalltheway

Oscar Robertson claims that Elgin Baylor is the greatest ever.
Just saying.

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Then I don't trust his judgment and his opinion is invalid on this matter.

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Originally Posted by Saddletramp

This was pretty much my exact response to his post. Jeez, this isn’t retroactive.

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Bingo

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Originally Posted by More-Than-Most

man its close... id go

durant
KL
Giannis
kobe
curry

durant is the easy choice here but haters hate

mix and match after the first 2 any way youd like and i wont argue... hell i wouldnt argue against curry being top 2 here tbh.. there just isnt a wrong choice with these 5 guys

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Giannis without the playoff resume over Kobe and Curry??