This is why they kneel

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Originally Posted by valade16

Special, do you think these cops who arrested this kid for no reason helped the perception that all cops arrest black people for no reason, or hurt it?

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I think they helped that perception ... helped cement it.

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Originally Posted by Scoots

I think they helped that perception ... helped cement it.

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This is possibly peak Special hypocrisy. In this very thread he railed against instances of false racism as undermining the cause and then turns a blind eye to these cops' actions undermining police perception, and he railed against using false instances like "hands up don't shoot" to further the cause and then uses an instance when police do exactly what he argues they don't do.

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Originally Posted by valade16

This is possibly peak Special hypocrisy. In this very thread he railed against instances of false racism as undermining the cause and then turns a blind eye to these cops' actions undermining police perception, and he railed against using false instances like "hands up don't shoot" to further the cause and then uses an instance when police do exactly what he argues they don't do.

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Sounds like every day special to me...

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Originally Posted by valade16

No, they were justified in being afraid of that black person, just as this kid was justified being afraid of these cops.

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these specific police did not do a thing before Reese already had his mind made up. that would be exactly the same as someone white concluding every single black person was X, or every single Muslim was X, or whatever other ignorant conclusion people come up with about an entire group of people.

I guarantee you that there are black people that do not have this negative perception about police in general, I've seen this on social media.

it should be okay to say Reese was wrong for his judgement and still think what the police ended up doing was wrong, which I agreed with.

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Originally Posted by valade16

Special, do you think these cops who arrested this kid for no reason helped the perception that all cops arrest black people for no reason, or hurt it?

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this one incident was negative and hurt, but there are a lot of examples of police interactions with someone black that do not result in anything negative. but those rarely make the news.

all blackface is racist! ..except when it's actually not blackface.

these type of examples hurt the perception of racism.

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A pair of teenage boys who were removed from a prestigious California Catholic school due to an alleged "blackface" photo are suing their former school for $20 million, claiming they were using acne treatment facial coverings.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

these specific police did not do a thing before Reese already had his mind made up. that would be exactly the same as someone white concluding every single black person was X, or every single Muslim was X, or whatever other ignorant conclusion people come up with about an entire group of people.

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Such as treating every non us citizen muslim in the world like a potential terrorist and banning them.

Oh wait...

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Originally Posted by nastynice

Such as treating every non us citizen muslim in the world like a potential terrorist and banning them.

Oh wait...

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you mean what I did not agree with. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

you mean what I did not agree with. :shrug:

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No, I mean what you initially supported, and then subsequently kept trying to justify after the ban didnt pass through.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

this one incident was negative and hurt, but there are a lot of examples of police interactions with someone black that do not result in anything negative. but those rarely make the news.

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And this would have been one of those incidents if not for the police.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

No, I mean what you initially supported, and then subsequently kept trying to justify after the ban didnt pass through.

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the only thing that I supported was the reasoning behind it. as I went on to provide, the same reasoning that Obama administration identified the very same countries that Trump first picked in the travel ban.

there was never going to be an entire Muslim ban, but there can be and was a ban from certain countries with a lack of vetting.

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Originally Posted by valade16

And this would have been one of those incidents if not for the police.

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you know I agreed with that, right?

but that doesn't excuse Reese making this conclusion before anything happened, which is what he did.


if a certain President wanted to ban an entire religion because some in that religion were radical, would you support that pre determined conclusion? lets not waste time, of course you wouldn't, even if some in that religion are radical, just as some police including these police do arrest black people.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

you know I agreed with that, right?

but that doesn't excuse Reese making this conclusion before anything happened, which is what he did.


if a certain President wanted to ban an entire religion because some in that religion were radical, would you support that pre determined conclusion? lets not waste time, of course you wouldn't, even if some in that religion are radical, just as some police including these police do arrest black people.

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No, but you would.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

the only thing that I supported was the reasoning behind it. as I went on to provide, the same reasoning that Obama administration identified the very same countries that Trump first picked in the travel ban.

there was never going to be an entire Muslim ban, but there can be and was a ban from certain countries with a lack of vetting.

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Yes, the reasoning is bigotry. When you say let's treat an entire demographic as guilty because of what someone else from that demographic did it most likely falls under your standard racism and bigotry.

This example is bigotry, and your support of it is what I am pointing out.

The reason the ban only applied to certain countries was because trump wasnt able to ban every country, not because his reasoning was based off those countries.

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Originally Posted by valade16

No

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okay so now we are getting somewhere.

so if a President should not make a pre determined conclusion based on evidence of some, why was it okay for Reese to make a pre determined conclusion based on evidence of some?