This is why they kneel

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

It depends on the area. Also, a violent altercation is more likely to lead to serious injury if you aren't prepared. A more accurate metaphor would be it's like crossing a busy highway on foot and hoping a car doesn't hit you.

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Not really. A city like Buffalo NY has nearly 17% of their population who have an at fault accident on their driving record. Nearly 18% in Cincinnati of a population of 301,000 people. These are among the highest rates in the country mind you. Considering not all of the 256,000 people drive in Buffalo, that's significantly higher than the chances of being involved in a violent crime in even the city with the largest number of violent crimes per 100,000 residents (Memphis TN) at 2,352.

Its a bad analogy.

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

I've never suggested ignoring racism. First, we need to all agree on an objective definition of racism. In the 1960s, we passed civiI rights laws to help stop racism. It didn't completely stop it but we all agreed to that objective definition. Then MLK said "don't judge people by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." This actually began to happen, not only towards black people but also towards white people. For a period, racism was about content and context. Call a black person a ****** in
derogatory way and you're a racist piece of **** and rightfully so. But we applied context to that word. Black people arent stupid. They know when someone is being racist/mean/derogatory towards them. Furthermore, the person being racist/mean wants their intentions to be known. In that case, there's no difference between the word ****** and some other made up word. At least with ****** we know the intentions of the user in this case. However, as time progresses, context wasn't good enough.

Furthermore, while you say you don't want to ignore racism, the left are the ones who want to subjectively apply who is racist and who is not. You want to ignore some racism and heavily apply the term to others. This typically depends on where they fall politically. That's why Joe Biden can say the word ****** on the senate floor and he gets a pass but joe Rogan says it on a podcast and he should be canceled. Thats why Whoopi Goldberg gets a 2 week suspension for being blatantly racist but Rosanne barr gets canceled. Liberals don't want to focus on racism to help black people. Liberals want to subjectively apply it to those they disagree with and ignore it otherwise. Liberals have made racism a joke to where most of the country now no longer takes it seriously.

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Exactly, and they are telling you the government is racially biased against them and you are saying they’re wrong. They are saying conservatives are the racist party and you’re saying they are wrong.

They aren’t stupid; they know.

So why don’t you believe them? The answer is your bottom diatribe. You hate Liberals so you’re using racism as a way to hate them. You don’t actually care about racism. It’s fitting you want to go back to the 60’s in regards to racism because a lot of your racist views come straight out of the 60’s. A lot of what was not considered racist then is considered racist now, that’s because it was racist, it was just a more racist-accepting society. One you apparently want to go back to.

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Originally Posted by valade16

Exactly, and they are telling you the government is racially biased against them and you are saying they’re wrong. They are saying conservatives are the racist party and you’re saying they are wrong.

They aren’t stupid; they know.

So why don’t you believe them? The answer is your bottom diatribe. You hate Liberals so you’re using racism as a way to hate them. You don’t actually care about racism. It’s fitting you want to go back to the 60’s in regards to racism because a lot of your racist views come straight out of the 60’s. A lot of what was not considered racist then is considered racist now, that’s because it was racist, it was just a more racist-accepting society. One you apparently want to go back to.

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Why is it that pretty much all of white liberals constantly accuse their political opponents of being RACISTS? Its disgusting and stupid. You're saying that conservatives are RACIST out of hand. Based on WHAT exactly? Not evidence certainly. And entire generations of minority people, Hispanics included, get indoctrinated right away with this crap from toddler age.

The fact is that I think a lot of the actual racism in this country is the other way. I think that the activities of groups like the Nation of Islam, BLM, Black Panthers, Southern Poverty Law Center, etc. are who the real dominate racist groups in this country are. All of this endemic and embedded racism charges is just an ongoing attack platform to spew hate and rile people up. And the weak assed progressives cry crocodile tears whenever race mongers like Sharpton yell racism at every turn.

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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey

Why is it that pretty much all of white liberals constantly accuse their political opponents of being RACISTS? Its disgusting and stupid. You're saying that conservatives are RACIST out of hand. Based on WHAT exactly? Not evidence certainly. And entire generations of minority people, Hispanics included, get indoctrinated right away with this crap from toddler age.

The fact is that I think a lot of the actual racism in this country is the other way. I think that the activities of groups like the Nation of Islam, BLM, Black Panthers, Southern Poverty Law Center, etc. are who the real dominate racist groups in this country are. All of this endemic and embedded racism charges is just an ongoing attack platform to spew hate and rile people up. And the weak assed progressives cry crocodile tears whenever race mongers like Sharpton yell racism at every turn.

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Of course you do, you guys always do.

By the way, saying the real racism in this country is from black organizations and people is probably why people think you’re racist.

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Originally Posted by ewing

you should go outside (try it without a gun)

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Good call.

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

When you're in the front seat of a car, do you wear a seat belt? Why?

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So you're incapable of leaving the house without your gun because you feel it keeps you safe?

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

It depends on the area. Also, a violent altercation is more likely to lead to serious injury if you aren't prepared. A more accurate metaphor would be it's like crossing a busy highway on foot and hoping a car doesn't hit you.

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Another idiotic comparison by a scared, out of touch lil' guy.

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Originally Posted by valade16

Of course you do, you guys always do.

By the way, saying the real racism in this country is from black organizations and people is probably why people think you’re racist.

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Forget about me being racist. I am a Christian Catholic first of all and I was taught from kindergarten on up that all men are created equal and taught to love and respect others. And I believe that philosophy is still taught throughout the Christian faith. This belief also includes blacks, hispanics, Jews, and most other faiths.

I also believe that in society there are enemies to this notion of equality among people that want to control people and press their own secular agenda. This include most politicians and business and government leaders as well as some ostensibly "Church" leaders. But, in general teh great majority of people are GOOD. But the media doesn't focus on the good things that most people do but rather the bad things that they do because BAD SELLS.

The movie NETWORK was all about that wasn't it? I think that pretty well explained what is going on now in the United States. We have basically PRAVDA in place now with truth omitted in broadcasting, censureship in place in a ton of communication platforms and now a government that is desirous of controlling our every action.

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

Sorry. Ill practice on my essay writing skills so you can keep up.

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Cohesive thoughts that don't swing wildly into left field would be a welcome improvement, at least.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

So you're incapable of leaving the house without your gun because you feel it keeps you safe?

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My gun is located in my car, mostly because my gf doesn't feel comfortable having it in the house. If i take my car out, gun is with me. If im in my gfs car, it's not.

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Originally Posted by valade16

Exactly, and they are telling you the government is racially biased against them and you are saying they’re wrong. They are saying conservatives are the racist party and you’re saying they are wrong.

They aren’t stupid; they know.

So why don’t you believe them? The answer is your bottom diatribe. You hate Liberals so you’re using racism as a way to hate them. You don’t actually care about racism. It’s fitting you want to go back to the 60’s in regards to racism because a lot of your racist views come straight out of the 60’s. A lot of what was not considered racist then is considered racist now, that’s because it was racist, it was just a more racist-accepting society. One you apparently want to go back to.

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If there's is something tangible we could change about our government/laws because it discriminates against black people, I'm all for it. But it has to be something tangible and the same for everyone. However, i have yet to hear any remedy for change. Simply stating someone is bias or that some feels discriminated against is not enough.

Again, it’s not that i don't believe them. I just don't believe every misguided or wrong interaction warrants changes to be made to an entire system. I use the 60s as a reference for when we all agreed on tangible changes. Not to mention, republicans were not the party of racism. Republicans were not the party of the kkk. Republicans have always been on the side of civil rights. So when a republican says go back to when America was great, that's what we mean.

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

If there's is something tangible we could change about our government/laws because it discriminates against black people, I'm all for it. But it has to be something tangible and the same for everyone. However, i have yet to hear any remedy for change. Simply stating someone is bias or that some feels discriminated against is not enough.

Again, it’s not that i don't believe them. I just don't believe every misguided or wrong interaction warrants changes to be made to an entire system. I use the 60s as a reference for when we all agreed on tangible changes. Not to mention, republicans were not the party of racism. Republicans were not the party of the kkk. Republicans have always been on the side of civil rights. So when a republican says go back to when America was great, that's what we mean.

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First Bolded: Over the years I have posted dozens of such laws and changes and you have been against nearly every one.

Second Bolded: Except for right now and most of the past 60 years…

Nobody is going to look back on this time and say the guys who were defending confederate statues were the ones fighting for black civil rights…

You have a significant misunderstanding of the Civil Rights Era if you think "we all agreed on tangible changes." They don't call it Bloody Sunday because everyone sat around drinking Bloody Marys and agreeing on everything.

To act like either party was "always on the side of civil rights" is also to demonstrate a significant misunderstanding. Voting on the Civil Rights Act of 1964, for example, wasn't done along party lines, it was along geographic ones.

Senators from both parties that had been part of the Confederacy voted overwhelmingly against it - 1-21; the only southern Senator to vote for it was a Democrat from Texas, who lost his next election in the state partially as a result of this vote. The story was no different in the House: 8-94 against; again, the only southern votes in favor of the bill came from 8 southern Democrats.

This should be plainly obvious to anyone that sees the way the south went from a Democratic stronghold to a Republican one after the Civil Rights Era.

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

If there's is something tangible we could change about our government/laws because it discriminates against black people, I'm all for it. But it has to be something tangible and the same for everyone. However, i have yet to hear any remedy for change. Simply stating someone is bias or that some feels discriminated against is not enough.

Again, it’s not that i don't believe them. I just don't believe every misguided or wrong interaction warrants changes to be made to an entire system. I use the 60s as a reference for when we all agreed on tangible changes. Not to mention, republicans were not the party of racism. Republicans were not the party of the kkk. Republicans have always been on the side of civil rights. So when a republican says go back to when America was great, that's what we mean.

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You are correct based on your usage of verb tense. Republicans WERE not the party of the KKK. But they are currently the ones fighting for their legacy. Democrats want to take down statues dedicated to members of the KKK and want to bring shame to anyone who is wearing or brandishing the Confederate Flag. It's modern day Republicans who are fighting those efforts to take down statues honoring KKK members and proudly showing off their "heritage not hate" flag.

I do always get a kick out of the Joey’s who think the Civil Rights movement was this unanimous thing. Everything Joey is saying about Black protests now, white conservatives were saying about Black people protesting then. MLK was killed for his beliefs.