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06-09-2020, 02:45 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by flips333

So if smoke grenades and Pepper balls have the effect of irritating the skin and the eyes and making it hard to breathe... what the **** does it matter that it's not tear gas, which irritates the skin and the eyes and makes it hard to breathe.

It's like if I hit someone in the head with a cricket Bat and the NYT reported that I hit them with a baseball bat and everyone started to fixate on the fact that they wrongly reported that I used a baseball bat instead of the fact that I bludgeoned someone. Seriously what the **** is wrong with people.

Exactly. It tells you they don’t have any problem with police gassing peaceful protestors.
06-09-2020, 02:46 PM
Scoots

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Originally Posted by flips333

So if smoke grenades and Pepper balls have the effect of irritating the skin and the eyes and making it hard to breathe... what the **** does it matter that it's not tear gas, which irritates the skin and the eyes and makes it hard to breathe.

It's like if I hit someone in the head with a cricket Bat and the NYT reported that I hit them with a baseball bat and everyone started to fixate on the fact that they wrongly reported that I used a baseball bat instead of the fact that I bludgeoned someone. Seriously what the **** is wrong with people.

The part about this one that bugs me a bit is that police all over the country have been using similar tactics on peaceful protesters but this one is getting a ton of extra coverage because Trump, more coverage than other worse behavior by police.

Trump Trumps and Trumps and the media jumps to yell TRUMP. Trump wins again. Twas it ever thus.
06-09-2020, 02:47 PM
Scoots

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Originally Posted by valade16

Exactly. It tells you they don’t have any problem with police gassing peaceful protestors.

I think most government is willing to push any boundary to keep the populace where they want them.
06-09-2020, 02:50 PM
Scoots

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Originally Posted by SiteWolf

from the government's side, the crowd was asked several times to temporarily move back one block...that by itself isn't an unreasonable request, agree? As in continue your protest, just please move that direction for a little while......the likelihood, however, is that they weren't asked so nicely nor given the proper time to respond before whoop, here you go, start cryin'

That certainly matches up with what I've seen over and over on videos. You never know what happened before the video starts, but it sure looks like the police react REALLY quickly to a crowd or an individual not instantly reacting the way they want to a command.
06-09-2020, 02:51 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Scoots

The part about this one that bugs me a bit is that police all over the country have been using similar tactics on peaceful protesters but this one is getting a ton of extra coverage because Trump, more coverage than other worse behavior by police.

Trump Trumps and Trumps and the media jumps to yell TRUMP. Trump wins again. Twas it ever thus.

Again, it’s about the totality if the situation. This is getting so much coverage because these tactics were used to allow for a photo op.
06-09-2020, 03:00 PM
Sluggo1

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Originally Posted by flips333

So if smoke grenades and Pepper balls have the effect of irritating the skin and the eyes and making it hard to breathe... what the **** does it matter that it's not tear gas, which irritates the skin and the eyes and makes it hard to breathe.

It's like if I hit someone in the head with a cricket Bat and the NYT reported that I hit them with a baseball bat and everyone started to fixate on the fact that they wrongly reported that I used a baseball bat instead of the fact that I bludgeoned someone. Seriously what the **** is wrong with people.

Ever been exposed to tear gas and smoke grenades??? Although both look the same, there is a world of difference.

Smoke grenades do not necessarily make you move. It is bearable. With tear gas, you move.

But you are avoiding the original point…do you think the police just walked out and shot these grenades and bullets or did they ask the "peaceful" protestors to leave (probably multiple times). And who do you think became aggressive first??? The police or the "peaceful" protestors.

Bottom line with all this stuff, regardless as to what city you are in, if the police ask you to move along, you should move along.
06-09-2020, 03:03 PM
Sluggo1

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Originally Posted by Scoots

The part about this one that bugs me a bit is that police all over the country have been using similar tactics on peaceful protesters but this one is getting a ton of extra coverage because Trump, more coverage than other worse behavior by police.

Trump Trumps and Trumps and the media jumps to yell TRUMP. Trump wins again. Twas it ever thus.

How come we never hear about bad behavior by the protestors.

Former police chief killed in St Louis
300 police injured in NYC
numerous police injured around the country
police precinct burned down
policeman run over in NYC
looting and fires across the US

Does any of that qualify as bad behavior or are we supposed to "understand" it???

Just wondering.
06-09-2020, 03:04 PM
Sluggo1

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Originally Posted by valade16

Exactly. It tells you they don’t have any problem with police gassing peaceful protestors.

What about all the police getting injured by the "peacefull" protestors??? Any comments on that????
06-09-2020, 03:04 PM
Sluggo1

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Originally Posted by Scoots

I think most government is willing to push any boundary to keep the populace where they want them.

Is that from you or Joe Stalin???
06-09-2020, 03:06 PM
dbroncos78087

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

How come we never hear about bad behavior by the protestors.

Former police chief killed in St Louis
300 police injured in NYC
numerous police injured around the country
police precinct burned down
policeman run over in NYC
looting and fires across the US

Does any of that qualify as bad behavior or are we supposed to "understand" it???

Just wondering.

Imagine if you got this riled up about people who are given the legal power of life and death abusing that power to kill people. Because each of those things that you point out, there are countless more examples of the police doing those things.

The police have injured FAR more than 300 people.

The police have destroyed (I don't know that they've explicitly burnt things) plenty of people's property and stolen (asset forfeiture anyone) even more.

The police in NYC ran over how many people this year?

Again asset forfeiture is just a fancy way of saying legalized looting.
06-09-2020, 03:07 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

How come we never hear about bad behavior by the protestors.

Former police chief killed in St Louis
300 police injured in NYC
numerous police injured around the country
police precinct burned down
policeman run over in NYC
looting and fires across the US

Does any of that qualify as bad behavior or are we supposed to "understand" it???

Just wondering.

We don’t hear about that? We’ve heard nonstop about it. Half the arguments in here were trying to get people to differentiate between the rioters/looters and the peaceful protestors.

Which speaking of, here you are trying to lump everyone in together to vilify them. What does what the protestors in St. Louis or NYC have to do with this specific incident?

We’re these specific protestors peaceful and did the police gas them?
06-09-2020, 03:07 PM
Sluggo1

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Originally Posted by flips333

Why should protesters have to move because the president wants a photo op?

Secret service: "All right... everybody needs to clear out here... the President needs to awkwardly hold up a book he;s never read in front of a church."

Protesters "Why? That dude is a **** burger!"

Secret Service "Well Trump's butt hurt because FOX reported he went into his bunker and he thinks that makes him look like a *****."

Protesters: "He can **** off!"

Secret service: Ok have the police fire the smoke canisters and pepper balls... and don't forget to beat on the austrialian media with your shields while you are at it.

If I plop myself down in one of you classrooms and just play music loudly disrupting your class, would you just allow me to sit there or call the campus police??? If I refuse to move and they drag me out kicking and screaming, would that be OK or would you stand up for my right to protest???
06-09-2020, 03:07 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

What about all the police getting injured by the "peacefull" protestors??? Any comments on that????

Can you show me where any police were injured during this DC incident?
06-09-2020, 03:08 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

If I plop myself down in one of you classrooms and just play music loudly disrupting your class, would you just allow me to sit there or call the campus police??? If I refuse to move and they drag me out kicking and screaming, would that be OK or would you stand up for my right to protest???

For being a businessman, you are shockingly ignorant about the difference between public and private property...
06-09-2020, 03:17 PM
dbroncos78087

Any thoughts from the pro-cops side on this one?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...ficer-71147000

Why did the armed black man get perceived as a threat by this officer down in Alabama? And why was the reporting blocked on it until just now?

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