This is why they kneel

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Originally Posted by natepro

Yeah, gosh, you really got me there. Jumping into a thread I had already been posting in for a while. Who could've seen that coming? We got goddamned Nostradamus here.

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Oh...you thought I was just taking about this thread. You silly little binary person.

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

Oh...you thought I was just taking about this thread. You silly little binary person.

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A twist worthy of Shyamalan.

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Originally Posted by metswon69

Good thing is it was in your more recent posts. Never said it, huh?

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I used ethnicities there instead of race but my point was more geared towards race. You would refer to this as cultural appropriation. I also never said mexican food needs to be served by mexicans. I previously said wait staffs should represent the general public. Furthermore, i strengthened this point by saying in some cases like with restaurant names, cultural appropriation is acceptable because for marketing reasons certain foods match better with authentic names. So again i ask even in your post where i said food needed to be served by specific ethnicities?

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Originally Posted by valade16

This whole conversation really puts in perspective what this debate is about for each side doesn't it.

Black people: The US historically imported us as slaves and even after obtaining freedom we were legally put in a lower class of society, and even after we got that equality we still face extreme bias and outright racism. Our neighborhoods are underdeveloped and lack investment, as do our schools. There is mass systemic bias within our criminal justice system which in many cases intentionally targets black people and in many more unintentionally targets us which destroys our ability to wield economic power through be able to vote and incarcerates us and prevents us from obtaining better jobs or creating a nuclear family structure. There is bias in all manner of societal norms such as housing and monetary lending and job hiring.

We want to fix those problems.

White people: We can't use one word!! THIS IS SO UNFAIR.

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do you want equality or not?

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Originally Posted by metswon69

How do they know that? They may have feelings about why the word should go away but that doesn't change the term of endearment the word has become among black people.

Its not confusing. You just have a hard time wrapping your head around a simple concept and you just need to stomp your feet at how "unfair" it is that you can't use the word while black people can. Get over it.

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those who want to change the meaning of the word does not change the word and it's already established meaning, and what you yourself have said about it should support that.

I also repeat again, I do not want to use the word. the word is terrible and shouldn't be used by anyone.

those that want to argue how awful it is, would have more of a point if it was not so freely used.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

What have you seen that makes you think the usage of the word is negotiable? I can’t say this any simpler: DO NOT SAY THE WORD!

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this is comical to me, because this is the augment about the N word in general.

how is it negotiable to a certain group of people.

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Originally Posted by valade16

Just because I believe this word offends them doesn’t mean I think it’s the only word that offends them.

Actually your issue is you don’t think this word offends black people. It does. I don’t feel better than black people, but I certainly feel better than you because at least I don’t go around calling black people the n-word and then acting like I’m the oppressed one when people get mad.

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is there any other word in history that offends anyone more than the N word for black people? I can't think of any word that is worse, with more hate.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Folks like Spicer get so butthurt.

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it would help if anyone bothered about the halftime show, said what part bothered them.

I enjoyed the show, liked the music. I saw Eminem go down, did not even realize it was a "kneeling" thing if that is what it was.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

those who want to change the meaning of the word does not change the word and it's already established meaning, and what you yourself have said about it should support that.

I also repeat again, I do not want to use the word. the word is terrible and shouldn't be used by anyone.

those that want to argue how awful it is, would have more of a point if it was not so freely used.

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For someone who doesn't want to use the word, you argue hard for why everyone should be allowed to use it.

And yes it does because black people aren't using the word to disparage their own race. Meanwhile and in most cases when other races are using it, that's specifically the purpose. When you figure that out, let me know. The goal of equity isn't lessened by your attempts at meaningless distraction. You want a more level playing field? Find ways for blacks and other minorities to have the same amount of opportunities as their white counterparts. But we both know how uninterested you are in that based on how hard you argue against minority supreme court justices.

The only time that equal playing field matters to you is when you can **** on leftists to make your party look better. Its a pathetic smokescreen.

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Originally Posted by metswon69

For someone who doesn't want to use the word, you argue hard for why everyone should be allowed to use it.

And yes it does because black people aren't using the word to disparage their own race. Meanwhile and in most cases when other races are using it, that's specifically the purpose. When you figure that out, let me know. The goal of equity isn't lessened by your attempts at meaningless distraction. You want a more level playing field? Find ways for blacks and other minorities to have the same opportunities as their white counterparts. But we both know how uninterested you are in that based on how hard you argue against minority supreme court justices.

The only time that equal playing field matters to you is when you can **** on leftists to make your party look better. Its a pathetic smokescreen.

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Nobody argues for the right to say the word than white men who really “don’t” want to say the word.

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

I used ethnicities there instead of race but my point was more geared towards race. You would refer to this as cultural appropriation. I also never said mexican food needs to be served by mexicans. I previously said wait staffs should represent the general public. Furthermore, i strengthened this point by saying in some cases like with restaurant names, cultural appropriation is acceptable because for marketing reasons certain foods match better with authentic names. So again i ask even in your post where i said food needed to be served by specific ethnicities?

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You're doing an awful lot of covering your tracks. Whatever way you need to throw it back at me, it just sounds like more racism from you. No, I don't give 2 ***** who is preparing or serving food irrespective of the type of restaurant I am in as don't most people.

That's commonplace in this world and especially in hugely diverse cities like the one you said you lived in the East Coast.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

do you want equality or not?

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No.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

this is comical to me, because this is the augment about the N word in general.

how is it negotiable to a certain group of people.

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Because it was directed at them. But you know that.

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Originally Posted by natepro

Because it was directed at them. But you know that.

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Yea nobody is buying the faux ignorance. There is absolutely no way to exist in society, in America or otherwise and not understand the history behind the word.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Yea nobody is buying the faux ignorance. There is absolutely no way to exist in society, in America or otherwise and not understand the history behind the word.

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eQuAl pLaYiNg FiElD!!!

That is Special's whole existence in every argument. Its equally as bad if black people use the n-word as when white people or other races use it. He doesn't like that white people have to atone for parts of their history. Same reason why he's big mad that Biden is going to nominate a black female supreme court justice.