So the egg wasn't even Mary's? God just put the egg in her womb?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
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So the egg wasn't even Mary's? God just put the egg in her womb?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
If I was an all powerful all knowing god I would most likely skip the whole sperm and egg implant and just use a viable embryo.
We weren't there, so we don't know. There's a reason it's called the immaculate conception. What we do know from what's written is Joseph wasn't the father and Jesus blended in with other Jewish people in the area at the time. Whether he had any of Mary's DNA or not would only be speculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
Well if he was able to blend in to the population of arab and jewish people of the time, it strongly suggests his complexion was close enough to theirs to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
But what is most odd about this conversation is the idea that it is incumbent upon people to prove Jesus was not white rather than prove he was. To be clear: there is absolutely zero evidence that Jesus was white. So it's a big leap from "we don't know what ethnicity he was" to "he might have been white". He might have been Chinese, there's literally exactly as much evidence for him being Chinese as White.
You are too smart to not understand this by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Come on. Answer your own question.
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They can. And do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
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If your side took a timeout from discrediting and ignoring every minority cause, you’d see that they are protesting for equal rights as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
All lives will matter once we all come to the same level. It’s not exclusive, it’s calling attention to the issue that back lives don’t matter as much as white right now.
But you will deny that fact so it really doesn’t matter does it?
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Lingering effects from segregation. Pushed to their own neighborhoods with less public funding and support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Move to a white and wealthy neighborhood and whites leave.
Ask for funding for schools and your side pushes back.
Ask for fair treatment by police and your side pushes back.
Ask for Income relief and help and your side pushes back on “freeloaders”.
Ask for equal hiring process so they have a better shot at better jobs like whites and your side pushes back with antiAffirmative Action bogus arguments.
Ask for healthcare because neither of the low wage jobs they’re working are providing sufficient care, your side pushes back.
The system is broken and circular to create these issues and at every turn conservatives stand in the way denying there is a problem and wondering why minorities commit more crimes while refusing to help their infrastructure.
Your side lacks any empathy and under Trump it has jumped to a sociopathic level.
Your side operates only in fear.
The Mexicans are taking your jobs.
The democrats are taking your guns.
The government is taking your money.
The muslims are trying to kill you.
The communists are taking over.
The liberals are killing babies.
The gays are taking away the sanctity of marriage.
Transgenders are taking over your bathroom.
Colleges are making kids liberal.
Liberals are against your churches.
BE AFRAID!!!!
It’s in every platform message.
Dems are also flawed in idealism with no follow through and false promises. This is why the progressive side is pushing back.
But you asked the question and the answer is: you’re in the way.
Push your own party reps to invest funding and resources in minority neighborhoods. Childcare and education, not police forces. Start there.
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Basically quit brothering good christian white folks with our whinny arse bs, in your value opinion, and take care of our own, self-created problems without federal intervenue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
I love how you admit there is a teenie weenie bitty problem with the criminal justice system in that they just won't let these worthless people smoke their weed.
One again you tell the stripe of the man by what and how he rants. If I ever have an identity problem, I have you tell to me the what what of Blacks. such a negative post.
A good chunk of the violence in our communities are gang related, criminals, and just plain people who snapped. Most violence crimes are done by repeated offenders. You would want to stress the killing and high crime to those people and not use the word Blacks. Be specfic. You act like there isn't strong criminal gangs element in our community.
Think I am full of it? What if I started talking about the racism of the KKK, but I use white this and white that constantly instead of being specfic with my accusations? It would sound like I am dogging the whole race by the actions of the few. You would think after awhile I was bigoted.
You just don't know how to talk outside your little white, self centered click.
You are highly offensive with your dumpster dive for negativity and reflecting it all back on the whole community. You had the f'ing nerve to call me a racist.
What in your view is lacking in empathy?Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
NVN, hopeless cause.
The right is constantly trying to treat other identities in a way they would not accept their own identity being treated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
Hypocrites.
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Example?Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
This is an idea you should direct towards mindless sheep Christians lol. I’ve studied The Bible meticulously and your knowledge of it comes from a Sunday school.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Feel free to tell us about the Council of Carthage tho. Have a feeling that might cut your argument short lol
Yea, they constantly complain when they are compared to radical white supremacists, yet support treating every Muslim in the world like a terrorist and not allowing them to enter the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
Cmon man, theres like a million examples, lol, wtf?
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I was looking for an example and not a generalization.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
Yes, the muslim ban is the example I'm speaking of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
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Just a quick couple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
The right has in recent months suggested that we sacrifice people for money. That protecting other people with a mask is less important than their right not to be mildly inconvienced.
They have literally taken thousands of children from their parents at the border.
They want to get rid of health insurance for millions and remove coverage for prexisting conditions.
So yeah... if you agree with them at least ****ing own it.
Just the fact you use the term mindless sheep Christians tells me there's no logic in even bothering debating this with you. So if you're waiting for it, you'll be disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by browski234
Black people systematically abused and instead of hearing them out, jumping to All Lives Matter and that there’s no racism or problem etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
Women want an equal pay act and denying the problem.
I dunno pick a social movement over the last 200 years and you’ll find conservatives showing no empathy. Not even trying to put themselves in others position.
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They call us bleeding heart liberals and don’t know how they lack empathy.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
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that one has always been a frustrating one for me because my personal experience is almost oppositeQuote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
When I first graduated from college I was the victim of reverse sex discrimination....I was the hiring manager's choice for a very good starting job that would have put me on a very strong track (which I know because a friend of mine was a friend of the hiring manager)......but at the last minute, the home office insisted he fill the position with a woman.............it significantly changed the course of my career...originally into retail, where women were, at least at the time, more likely to get promotions than men. Most recently, I worked for state government...where I constantly saw women getting moved up at a higher rate.
So when I see talk of women getting equal pay...well, it strikes me different than it would for most, I guess.
since this has turned into being about racism, surely this is on topic.
https://www.tmz.com/2020/07/14/nick-...imals-savages/
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Nick Cannon Dropped By Viacom After Anti-Semitic Remarks
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Nick Cannon has been dropped by ViacomCBS after he made anti-Semitic comments on his podcast.
The announcement came Tuesday afternoon, amidst a downpour of outrage and backlash toward the 'Wild n' Out' star after he made very controversial claims on his podcast that many considered deeply troubling and downright hateful.
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In the same podcast in which Nick suggested white people were "a little less" than darker-skinned people, he also stated, "You can’t be anti-Semitic when we are the Semitic people.”
if anyone tried to say this about black people, they would quickly be labeled racist. the same should go for Nick Cannon.Quote:
Nick Cannon's under fire for comments he made about melanin, white people and why they became "savages" long, long ago -- and some are even calling him a "black supremacist."
"The Masked Singer" host has recently been accused of spewing anti-Semitism on his podcast, "Cannon's Class," but now it's this brief clip from his June 30 episode with Professor Griff -- formerly of Public Enemy -- that has people riled up.
Nick said that the power of melanin -- or lack thereof -- made white people "a little less" than darker-skinned people ... and claims this deficiency leads to fear.
He was speaking anthropologically -- meaning the very first white people in modern-day Europe -- but went on to say white people's fear made them lack compassion and ultimately ... become evil.
Nick then referred to these white people of the past as "savages," "barbaric" and added ... "They're the ones that are actually closer to animals, they're the ones that are actually the true savages."
Now, some people are calling him out for the remarks, including black British rapper Zuby, who tweeted, "Nick Cannon has gone full black supremacist. This is 100% certified racist."
this is what Democrats want.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wha...ce-reparations
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Democratic Reps. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts announced the BREATHE Act on Tuesday -- legislation that would radically transform the nation's criminal justice system by eliminating life sentences, retroactively expunging drug crimes, shutting down multiple federal agencies and permanently closing prisons and immigration detention centers, among other agenda items.
The bill also seeks to end gang databases, establish pilot programs for a universal basic income, and afford voting rights and "lifetime education" to all illegal immigrants and incarcerated criminals.
Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelos couldn't even remember his name.Quote:
The House passed a sweeping police reform bill last month. All 233 Democrats voted in favor of the bill -- titled the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act -- along with three Republicans. The Senate voted 55-45 in favor of the bill, but it needed 60 votes to move forward.
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Section 1: Divesting from police
Eliminate ankle monitors
End life sentences and mandatory minimum sentences
this doesn't help America, this hurts America.Quote:
Abolish police gang databases, as well as armed cops and metal detectors in school
Forgive all outstanding court debt
https://nmaahc.si.edu/sites/default/...?itok=tO7RMVFi
this is some of the dumbest ****. apparently white culture.. family structure, objective rational thinker, hard work, religion (Christianity), time.
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Yeah, I hated that generalization as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
well he also said he's 'meticulously studied the Bible' which, by his apparent view of it means it was a scholastic study rather than a spiritual one....and that my knowledge comes from Sunday School, inferring I have but a child's knowledge...meanwhile my past includes years as both a youth pastor and a gospel singer just as a start...no matter, not like he's the first nor will he be the lastQuote:
Originally Posted by WES445
I wish you spent as much time researching the black experience and helping find solutions as you do searching for “but what about”.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
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How does it hurt America? Other than driving down the gross profiteering of the prison system which is apparently the American way with our insane incarceration rates.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
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Ok you’re just ridiculous now.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
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just the fact we ever felt the need for privatized prisons should've been enough reason to realize there was a problemQuote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
It’s insane the way business controls every facet of US life. Areas where most intelligent societies have been able to differentiate needs v profit sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
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The two Americas.
On May 24th, several hundred protesters in KY stood on the porch of the Governor's mansion, many of whom were armed with rifles and demanding for him to come outside. This took place for nearly two hours while many beat on the glass windows of his home. The same group later that day hung an effigy of Governor Beshear from a tree. This group was made up primarily of middle-aged white males and they were protesting over COVID-19 restrictions. In response to this protest, they are now building a fence around the Governor's Mansion. ZERO ARRESTS WERE MADE.
On July 14th, 87 protesters sat in the front lawn in front of Attorney General Daniel Cameron's house. They were sitting in lines with their hands in their laps. This group was unarmed and made up of mostly young people both white and of color who were demanding justice for Breonna Taylor. Other than his grass no part of the Attorney General's home was touched. ALL 87 WERE ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH A FELONY.
See the difference? Do you?
Nope, they will support the former and condemn the group in the latter. They are BLM. Tribalism at the best. You will get no reply to this post from them.
How many times have you refuted their argument with fact and logic to have them repeat the same nonsense a week later?
It is belittling at the least. Don't take it personally, just chalk it up to ignorant. As long as your religion help your spiritual growth, what does it matter what an outsider thinks?Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
It doesn't, and I've dealt with this kinda thing all my life, I'm usually saddened for them more than angry for myself....but if I didn't enjoy a good debate once in awhile, I wouldn't be in this forum, I guess lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by WES445
lmao. Hes like the black version of breitbart!Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
You know, trumps initial right hand man in the White House, lol!
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I believe someone asked for example of systemic issues earlier..here you go..Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
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