This is why they kneel

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

quick question for anyone who might know this-

are cops cycled around the turfs they work? Because a cop in downtown St Louis sees the worst of society, and likely becomes de-sensitized, can become racist, trigger happy, etc, from personal experience. Where a cop in Wayzata, MN (where I grew up), sees Mercedes, BMWs, white ladies with lattes, and an occasional teenager in his Range Rover make a turn without using their signal.

Do cops get cycled around, so they don't become cynical and frankly jaded in their jobs?

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Generally no unless they transfer voluntarily, are moved for subpar performance, or are promoted to a new jurisdiction.

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Originally Posted by WES445

Don't know? But constantly seeing the worst of society day in and day out is stressing cops out as their suicide rate indicates. I kinda think cop culture is universal with the them and us mentality.

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That is what I mean, it would be a tough ask to say a cop who works in the worst areas not become jaded and cynical over time. That would absolutely hurt performance.

I would just like to point out that what hawkeye did is what should be done. Ask questions. Seek understanding. Try to understand multiple perspectives (which doesn't mean agreeing with multiple perspectives). This type of intellectualizing and understanding is something severely lacking in republicans. They fully accept what they hear on fox, facebook, etc.

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Originally Posted by nyyfan555

I would just like to point out that what hawkeye did is what should be done. Ask questions. Seek understanding. Try to understand multiple perspectives (which doesn't mean agreeing with multiple perspectives). This type of intellectualizing and understanding is something severely lacking in republicans. They fully accept what they hear on fox, facebook, etc.

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Serious question. You keep bringing up Fox but how often do hear positive cop stories on the news? There’s tons of them on YT but you would never see these type of stories on CNN or MSNBC..why do you think that is? If you want cops and citizens to get a better understanding of each other don’t you think sharing a few of the hundreds of positive stories would make at least a minor impact on how people view cops?


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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Serious question. You keep bringing up Fox but how often do hear positive cop stories on the news? There’s tons of them on YT but you would never see these type of stories on CNN or MSNBC..why do you think that is? If you want cops and citizens to get a better understanding of each other don’t you think sharing a few of the hundreds of positive stories would make at least a minor impact on how people view cops?


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Hey Brewers, I worry that you might have gotten lost.

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Serious question. You keep bringing up Fox but how often do hear positive cop stories on the news? There’s tons of them on YT but you would never see these type of stories on CNN or MSNBC..why do you think that is? If you want cops and citizens to get a better understanding of each other don’t you think sharing a few of the hundreds of positive stories would make at least a minor impact on how people view cops?


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How often do you hear positive stories about most professions? "Person does their job" is not really breaking news.

But accusing NBC of being anti-cop is kind of laughable when it's the same channel that has had Law & Order on their air since 1990, and has had Chicago PD on their air since 2014. Police have been the heroes on TV since at least Dragnet in the 1950's, catching the bad guys and saving the day week after week after week for more than 70 years. The idea that positive portrayals of police are hard to find could not be less true.

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

You keep bringing up Fox but how often do hear positive cop stories on the news? There’s tons of them on YT but you would never see these type of stories on CNN

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As far as this goes, here's two just in the last week.

Feb 24th: Homeless man turns down bus ticket, builds unlikely friendship with police

Feb 25th: US Marshals team up with California Native American tribe to address cases of missing and murdered Indigenous people

I didn't even have to go back to the middle of last week to show you're wrong.

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Serious question. You keep bringing up Fox but how often do hear positive cop stories on the news? There’s tons of them on YT but you would never see these type of stories on CNN or MSNBC..why do you think that is? If you want cops and citizens to get a better understanding of each other don’t you think sharing a few of the hundreds of positive stories would make at least a minor impact on how people view cops?


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Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

That is what I mean, it would be a tough ask to say a cop who works in the worst areas not become jaded and cynical over time. That would absolutely hurt performance.

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The problem is too much is asked of them. Our Drug War is basically fought on the street level instead of from its source, then we ask them to deal with homelessness, mental health, traffic, you name it. Every dark corner of society as you stated.

It wouldn't be far-fetch to say the government management of our police force and its personnel is as bad as they treat those folks in education, courts, public health, and other services that affect the common joe. overworked, underpaid, and left in the wind when the SHTF

If the police union really worked as a union and deal with its members' job place stress, they should be re-negotiating with the government to give some of that responsibility to other services and have a got dam endgame to this Drug War, cause they get the blame for the crime and drugs in those communities more so than Wash, DC.

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Serious question. You keep bringing up Fox but how often do hear positive cop stories on the news? There’s tons of them on YT but you would never see these type of stories on CNN or MSNBC..why do you think that is? If you want cops and citizens to get a better understanding of each other don’t you think sharing a few of the hundreds of positive stories would make at least a minor impact on how people view cops?


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Two answers to this:

1.) Saying we "never" see these stories on CNN or MSNBC is false. Nate found two stories within a matter of a minutes after your post. It's hard to answer your question when it's based on something completely untrue.

2.) This has nothing to do with how people view cops. Trying to alter people's view of cops by putting out feel-good stories isn't going to address the actual problem: cops are poorly trained, heavily armed, and disproportionately target non white people. I would imagine once that problem is fixed, the whole "how we view cops" thing will sort itself out.

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Serious question. You keep bringing up Fox but how often do hear positive cop stories on the news? There’s tons of them on YT but you would never see these type of stories on CNN or MSNBC..why do you think that is? If you want cops and citizens to get a better understanding of each other don’t you think sharing a few of the hundreds of positive stories would make at least a minor impact on how people view cops?


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How many positive stories do you see on national news feeds in general? National news feeds off controversy, and show only stories that will ignite people. While there are occasional stories around good cops, the focus (rightly so) is on the bad ones. This is how life works in general btw. When you have a job, you are expected to perform, and in the case of cops, when they don't, it typically means humans are being ****ed. That merits callouts.

Local news carriers plenty of "good cop" coverage.

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How often do you hear positive stories about most professions? "Person does their job" is not really breaking news.

But accusing NBC of being anti-cop is kind of laughable when it's the same channel that has had Law & Order on their air since 1990, and has had Chicago PD on their air since 2014. Police have been the heroes on TV since at least Dragnet in the 1950's, catching the bad guys and saving the day week after week after week for more than 70 years. The idea that positive portrayals of police are hard to find could not be less true.

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I have memories of my Dad watching "Hill Street Blues". He loved it..

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Originally Posted by WES445

The problem is too much is asked of them. Our Drug War is basically fought on the street level instead of from its source, then we ask them to deal with homelessness, mental health, traffic, you name it. Every dark corner of society as you stated.

It wouldn't be far-fetch to say the government management of our police force and its personnel is as bad as they treat those folks in education, courts, public health, and other services that affect the common joe. overworked, underpaid, and left in the wind when the SHTF

If the police union really worked as a union and deal with its members' job place stress, they should be re-negotiating with the government to give some of that responsibility to other services and have a got dam endgame to this Drug War, cause they get the blame for the crime and drugs in those communities more so than Wash, DC.

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Totally agree. And the "defund the police" movement is directly linked to this issue. Police shouldn't be answering mental health calls, or making traffic stops for minor violations. Let them concentrate on, ya know, protecting the public.

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Originally Posted by nyyfan555

Two answers to this:

1.) Saying we "never" see these stories on CNN or MSNBC is false. Nate found two stories within a matter of a minutes after your post. It's hard to answer your question when it's based on something completely untrue.

2.) This has nothing to do with how people view cops. Trying to alter people's view of cops by putting out feel-good stories isn't going to address the actual problem: cops are poorly trained, heavily armed, and disproportionately target non white people. I would imagine once that problem is fixed, the whole "how we view cops" thing will sort itself out.

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yeah I mean once cops stop escalating everything to violence, and routinely hurting people and shooting people, all with complete immunity in most cases, people will stop picking on those poor cops...

Again, I haven't heard a song called, "**** THE FIRE DEPARTMENT!"

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye15

I have memories of my Dad watching "Hill Street Blues". He loved it..

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I was young when Hill Street Blues was on, but I liked watching it with my dad. Or.. half of it. At the halfway mark, during the commercial break, they would show the title card and a voice over would say "Hill Street Blues will be right back!" and that was always the sign that it was time for me to go to bed. I didn't have any idea at the time that it was always at the halfway mark, though, so I thought sometimes it was earlier or later and it meant occasionally I got to stay up a little later. My dad got to watch the last half of the episode in peace, and I went to bed thinking I'd been able to stay up a little later. Clever man.