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It is the cops fault that all of these people get killed. And we all know that cops treat black and white suspects very differently. If people pretend that’s not true, then they are asking to be ignored from polite discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
it's not the cops fault when someone pulls a gun on them, like the examples where police are killed before they can react.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
How do the numbers break down by race on that? How many whites were killed pulling guns vs blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc..? As importantly, we will really need a breakdown by race of the number of times guns are pulled on cops at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
And it’s the police unions fault that bad cops are not easily fired or better trained. If people pretend to not ignore that they are asking to be ignored from polite discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
Hes saying blacks are 3x more likely to be involved in a situation where he is likely to get shot by police, and so it makes sense they are 3x more likely to be killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by debo
Conservatives will literally spell out the definition of systemic racism to you and in the same post tell you it doesnt exist...
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Maybe people aren’t ignoring it- they just disagreeQuote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
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Then like I’ve been told before, they are racist. Because they are allowing black people to be killed by bad cops.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing
I don’t want black people to be killed by bad police. I don’t want black kids to be taught by bad teachers. I don’t want my kid to be taught by bad teachers. Do you?
One of my favorite tactics is when you sarcastically pose the other sides argument that has never been made. It’s very Tucker Carlson-ish. Makes you feel good about your position against a claim that doesn’t exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
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Kind of funny you see this when a more conservative poster/commentator does this. As a more conservative poster, I deal with this all this time. And it’s prevalent in our news media even in terms of how they treat the president. Calling him racist for instance.Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
You won’t find me defending the police union. That’s the GOP’s job. Remember when the GOP in Wisconsin pushed to destroy unions but left them and the firefighters unions alone. This is why they did that. They didn’t attack unions on their side.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
So you're saying it's in minority's DNA to be criminals and any violence directed their way by those paid to serve and protect us is fully warranted (and most likely actually a good thing as it protects us non-minorities)?Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
I think I'm finally seeing the light now.
No one has said this at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
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I said people might disagree with your theory as to why there are bad cops but you are again starting from an assumption that I have to agree with your premise. I don’t so I’m not going to respond to questions that assume I doQuote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
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Of course not! That would be outrageous! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
it's not any system's fault where people (black/white/other) are making the choice to be involved in crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
otherwise there would be significantly more black people in these neighborhoods involved in crime, it would be off the charts, but that's not happening.
if it's systematic racism impacting the black neighborhoods that causes crime, then why doesn't it impact all of them or even most of them, because that's not happening.
being poor would have more of an impact than race, and being poor isn't a race thing.