This is why they kneel

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Good luck that all cops will follow that. Especially in a city with one of the highest murder rates. Cops have families and children also.

You know what would have saved the kid? Not being out at 2:30 am with a gun in your hand (what 13 year old is even out at that night anyways?)

My parents would have killed me if I was out that late when I was that Young

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The difference is your parents killing you would have been metaphorical whereas this kids death is very real.

I don’t think that because the kid commits a crime that absolves police of their behavior. Do you?

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

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Putting your hands in the air is a universal sign of surrender. The reason it is so is because when someone's has their hands raised in the air, they are not a threat.

This kid was shot when he was standing with his hands in the air, surrendering to the cop.

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Originally Posted by valade16

There's a chance. But there's a 100% chance by not waiting this kid is. The Protect in Protect and Serve was supposed to mean everyone else, not just themselves.

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The question is, who are they protecting. Generally speaking, a 13 year old white kid who committed a crime is looked at very differently than a 13 year old black kid. White america looks at one and says oh, hes just a kid, dont be so harsh on him, then they look at the other and want to try him as an adult.

This is subconscious programming, rooted in racist american history, which needs to change.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

Putting your hands in the air is a universal sign of surrender. The reason it is so is because when someone's has their hands raised in the air, they are not a threat.

This kid was shot when he was standing with his hands in the air, surrendering to the cop.

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Again you’re talking about a split second. In sports world this is like when people go after the refs for making an awful call when in real time it was a bang bang play and they got to see it in slow motion. In this case consequences are obviously more severe and deadly than a blown call but it’s still a judgement they had to make in a split second.

I’m sure if the cop knew he dropped the weapon that he wouldn’t have shot but it happened so quick that he didn’t have much time to react


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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Again you’re talking about a split second. In sports world this is like when people go after the refs for making an awful call when in real time it was a bang bang play and they got to see it in slow motion. In this case consequences are obviously more severe and deadly than a blown call but it’s still a judgement they had to make in a split second.

I’m sure if the cop knew he dropped the weapon that he wouldn’t have shot but it happened so quick that he didn’t have much time to react

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Despite my prior posts I agree with you and Spliff that it was a very tough situation. This one is not that clear cut and I'm by no means saying the officer's actions are inexcusable or incomprehensible. It was a very tough situation for everyone involved.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

It 100% sucks that this kid lost his life but I can see why an officer in a dark alley would have trouble telling the difference between the kid ditching the gun and the kid getting ready to fire the gun. I don't know exactly what happened leading up to this encounter but I have watched the video.

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

And if he waited an extra second and the kid had the gun in his hand the cop would likely be dead...


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Shoot first and ask questions later?

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Again you’re talking about a split second. In sports world this is like when people go after the refs for making an awful call when in real time it was a bang bang play and they got to see it in slow motion. In this case consequences are obviously more severe and deadly than a blown call but it’s still a judgement they had to make in a split second.

I’m sure if the cop knew he dropped the weapon that he wouldn’t have shot but it happened so quick that he didn’t have much time to react


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Why are you only concerned about the mistakes the person who got shot made in that same split second (with no training to fall back on)?

So the cop asks to see his hands, he shows his hands and gets shot. This is obviously not the first incident of someone being shot for doing what was asked. So don’t comply get shot. Comply get shot. Wtf are they supposed to do?

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

show that I'm wrong then. if I'm ignorant certainly you have something to contradict me.

what is Kim Potter's racist history?

what did Daunte Wright do in this incident?

did you see the warrant and DW's history?

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You’re just absolutely willfully ignorant. You constantly make excuses to justify these actions time and time again. And now surprisingly doing it again.

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So the cop asks to see his hands, he shows his hands and gets shot. This is obviously not the first incident of someone being shot for doing what was asked. So don’t comply get shot. Comply get shot. Wtf are they supposed to do?

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Not be out shooting a gun at 230 in the morning in a place that is known for people shooting people at 230 in the morning.

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

Not be out shooting a gun at 230 in the morning in a place that is known for people shooting people at 230 in the morning.

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Here we go, making the cops judge, jury, and executioner.


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Originally Posted by KobeOwnSU

Here we go, making the cops judge, jury, and executioner.


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With all the talk about gun control from the left etc it’s funny how you aren’t asking why a 13 year old had a loaded gun on him in the first place.

Should the parents be charged for letting him get his hands on it? Or does this only count for mass white shooters parents?


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:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by valade16

Despite my prior posts I agree with you and Spliff that it was a very tough situation. This one is not that clear cut and I'm by no means saying the officer's actions are inexcusable or incomprehensible. It was a very tough situation for everyone involved.

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Agreed. Sad all the way around. I just hate how people are like he had his hands up and didn’t have a weapon! True, but he also had a weapon in his hands a tenth of a second earlier right when he turned around. It’s entirely possible the cop didn’t see him ditch it when he had his back turned away from him. First, he pretty much hid the gun when he ditched it and then he turns around.

And it’s dark out and probably was hard to see for the cop


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Anyone know if the gun was in his hand or his pocket for most of the chase?