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You don't know her intent.........she was freaked she'd not only been caught, but now there's a guy recording her and she's not sure how to react...she reacted poorly, but highly unlikely she was thinking clearly about how to react in that moment. I mean yes, it could be EXACTLY what you said....or drastically different...we're extrapolating without all the facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by blams
The blue line is famous here in the states, there was even a movie named after it. I genuinely find the RCMP interesting, they are like the marshal service in US history in that they are often a long way from one of their fellow officers and are in those cases the only representative of the law there is. With all that history I wondered if their individual honor was commonly put below protecting the mounties as a whole like with US police?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
That would have made more sense in some strange way, but still their complaint isn't directly with Target and Auto Zone. It would make even more sense if they threw all of the police station office furniture in the lake.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
That seemed clear to me. She was trying to scare him into leaving her alone by threatening him and implying the police would just believe her because she was white and he was black.Quote:
Originally Posted by blams
The full story, from the mans own words, tells a different story. They were both being “karens.” Him complaining about her dog not being on the leash and her for calling the cops. Although I think most people might have called them. He said “you’re not gonna like what I do next” and then called her dog over to him. He claims he was just going to give it a treat, but I can understand why the woman would feel threatened by it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Yeah, of course she felt threatened, the guy was black. Black guys are threatening while jogging, threatening while running away from a situation, threatening while reaching for their license and registration, threatening while walking home, threatening while sitting on the sidewalk, threatening while laying face first in the pavement handcuffed, threatening while sleeping in their beds. They are pretty scary. I get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
Just freaking stop it. You want racism to go away? Stop inserting it into every damn situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
Maybe she was threatened because, off camera, he was acting in a more threatening way than the audio implies
Maybe she was threatened because he was simply a big dude..
Maybe she was threatened because he was black but you don't know her history.
Or maybe she was threatened just because he was black.......my point is we don't KNOW that. We don't KNOW how she'd have reacted in the exact same situation if he was white...or for that matter if SHE was black. But the way NOT to RESOLVE some of this is TO INSERT IT INTO EVERYTHING, justified or not.
It's like justifying the looting because maybe it causes action....meanwhile people who had zero to do with the situation otherwise walked off with things they stole from a business that also had zero to do with the situation.
yep, she put on a performance on the phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by blams
Oh, you just stop, its tired.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
I didnt justify rioting and looting, I said that it can be an effective means to an end. The point of any civil disobedience is to make the situation so uncomfortable for the powers that be that they must take action.
Was it polite? I thought I read he had mentioned about doing something she wouldn't like then offering her dog a treat. If I heard that I would take it as a threat to my dog too. This was not necessarily from a credible source I saw that though so I would have to look closerQuote:
Originally Posted by benny01
As a dog owner, if a stranger attempted to call my dog to them and made a weird remark, it would put me on alert.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
In that example, both sides were contributing to the escalation of the situation. He was being just as much of an idiot as she was...
To me he is playing the victim here while he kind of instigated things going too far in that. I don't think race needs to play a part for someone to be scared of a guy saying "you won't like whats next" then calling the dog to give it something.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
Looting isn't civil disobedience.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
As a dog owner that's super suspect. But who knows. One thing for sure, we can be sure that in this and all situations the public will wait until all the information is available before commenting on it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mngopher35
We don't know her intent? She flat out stated she was going to call the cops and tell them a black man was threating her life?Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Are you saying we don't know if her intent was to do exactly what she said she was going to do?