This is why they kneel

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

No we aren’t. It’s why people like you who tell black people they are worse than white people that we have race issues in this country.

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No, I tell black people they are worse off than white people, and that we have race issues in this country.


By the way: you still never answered why police required less evidence to search black people's vehicles on average than white people's. Care to answer?

What's with all this "you people" stuff?

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Originally Posted by Scoots

The part I find weird is that why not just say they don't care about any of that stuff they just want the other party to lose. That's certainly true this time ... I've seen tons of criticism of Biden by people who then go on to say they are voting for him anyhow.

Any sane person 2020.

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You can have a standard and vote for someone who breaks it less than the other because one is worse. That is what many people are likely doing and it makes a lot of sense for those capable of distinguishing not everything bad is equally bad.

Call out bad things but still be able to distinguish worse things. Candy isn't good for you so does that mean anyone who eats candy should just never care about their health?

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

So I take it you've been living underneath a rock for most of this year? Claiming that Trump's response to the coronavirus hasn't been dangerous to the people of this country is the absolute epitomy of foolishness.

I tend to think these guys are glorified puppets at best but Trump has shown us otherwise over the last half year or so. His words and actions have directly led to many, many unnecessary deaths. He's politicized something as simple, selfless, and effective as wearing (or not wearing) a ****ing mask. If you can't see that, your head is so far up Trump's *** that you can't even process basic information.

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Sure. Trump injected people with the virus. And Bush made Katrina happen. Those evil republicans. People make choices every day that’s get them killed.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

So he caters to people like you? Those that think racism is make believe? :laugh2:

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There’s a difference between believing something is real and not believing it is an epidemic that holds people down.

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

Sure. Trump injected people with the virus. And Bush made Katrina happen. Those evil republicans. People make choices every day that’s get them killed.

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Trump didnt inject them with the virus, he injected them with dumb, lol. His own dumb!

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Originally Posted by nastynice

That's what you want, but that's not what you'll get. Hasn't been the case since the 80's. Dont let them fool you.

You have mentioned the higher crime rate amongst blacks as a reason to support approaching and treating blacks differently. So I would say by your own description, you support systemic racism. It is one thing to accept it as a reality, it is another to actively support and push for this reality.

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I don’t want laws or policies which outright or indirectly negatively impact any group of people. Do you agree?

I mention the higher crime rate amongst black people because it’s an issue for young black men in particular. Not admitting the problem is a form of racism.

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Originally Posted by valade16

No, I tell black people they are worse off than white people, and that we have race issues in this country.


By the way: you still never answered why police required less evidence to search black people's vehicles on average than white people's. Care to answer?

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So you believe it’s better to be white than black. How is this not racism? Just because this racism comes with some racial self loathing does not mean it’s not racism.

You are looking at a micro question on a macro level. The answer is in the details.

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Originally Posted by mngopher35

You can have a standard and vote for someone who breaks it less than the other because one is worse. That is what many people are likely doing and it makes a lot of sense for those capable of distinguishing not everything bad is equally bad.

Call out bad things but still be able to distinguish worse things. Candy isn't good for you so does that mean anyone who eats candy should just never care about their health?

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If you eat candy, you may as well start smoking crack.

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

Sure. Trump injected people with the virus. And Bush made Katrina happen. Those evil republicans. People make choices every day that’s get them killed.

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Yeah, it definitely seems as though the placement of your head is affecting your ability to process basic information.

Best wishes, Joey.

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

So you believe it’s better to be white than black. How is this not racism? Just because this racism comes with some racial self loathing does not mean it’s not racism.

You are looking at a micro question on a macro level. The answer is in the details.

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I think you need some work in understanding what racism actually is

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

If you eat candy, you may as well start smoking crack.

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Both sides are bad! You are soooo right!

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

So you believe it’s better to be white than black. How is this not racism? Just because this racism comes with some racial self loathing does not mean it’s not racism.

You are looking at a micro question on a macro level. The answer is in the details.

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Not at all. I believe white people on average have it easier in this country than black people on average. That has nothing do with the quality of black or white people, but the quality of the system.

As for your micro question on a macro level, it seems you forgot literally everything you were told concerning macro trends being statistical proofs of micro inconsistencies.


This seems to be a trend with you. You acknowledge a truth and then immediately forget it when it comes to admitting there is racism.

Honestly, you have such a hard time understanding what systemic racism even is I'm starting to believe you lack the mental capacity to comprehend it.

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Originally Posted by SiteWolf

I think you need some work in understanding what racism actually is

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This is a common theme with Joey. If it's not walking around in a white hood yelling the N-word, it can't be racist. He's the biggest purveyor of racism on this forum too, which is quite ironic.

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Originally Posted by valade16

Not at all. I believe white people on average have it easier in this country than black people on average. That has nothing do with the quality of black or white people, but the quality of the system.

As for your micro question on a macro level, it seems you forgot literally everything you were told concerning macro trends being statistical proofs of micro inconsistencies.


This seems to be a trend with you. You acknowledge a truth and then immediately forget it when it comes to admitting there is racism.

Honestly, you have such a hard time understanding what systemic racism even is I'm starting to believe you lack the mental capacity to comprehend it.

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In your first paragraph, you are essentially saying it is better to be white than to be black in the US in 2020 simply by the color of ones skin. This is back door racism. It’s the racism of low expectations. You are telling black people, they are less than but you feel sorry for them so you do it with a smile. It’s modern day racism.

When you ask specifically why are black people searched more often than white drivers, it’s a micro question. You need to consider such criteria as the behavior and actions of the driver. The area in which the vehicle stop occurred and furthermore, the specific road the stop occurred on. Is this road a major route which leads to a main high crime area? Is this road frequented more by black people than white people? Are these specifics the same?