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The next sound you will hear is something flying over heads.
Is that what it is? Or is it more a willing ignorance?Quote:
Originally Posted by WES445
Sometimes I'm not sure..
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they're not always different thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
Lol gtfoQuote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
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See Nasty. Instead of just going over their heads, they now are dunking and weaving out the way.
Liberals: Here’s why things are bad with (insert social issue) and here’s how we can make them better.
Brewers: lol
Conservatives: Why do you say we don’t have empathy?
I mean what’s the point anymore. Let’s agree we live in two different realities and figure out a path for secession into two americas.
maybe because saying conservatives have no empathy is considerably untrue?Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
lol, willful ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Dont ask for something you're not willing to hear an answer for. You're disingenuous. Give up the charade, no one cares to cater to you snow flakes because you are so offended when people point out your racist mentality as such. You asked for an example of how the system approaches diff demographics differently, you were given one and your response is gtfo.
Sry bro, but that television program which programmed your mind is one which actively caters to racists. People reflect what they are taught.
Choose your teacher wisely, grasshopper.
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FYI. I fully admit that my understanding of Christianity is very limited, but the “immaculate conception” refers to Mary’s birth, not Jesus’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception
yeah, it's one of those things taught differently outside the Catholic church and is why Catholics revere Mary on a higher level than other Christian denominations and why I shouldn't have pulled out a primarily Catholic term.......but would also be all the more reason we don't really know what DNA Jesus would've had....I appreciate the reminder on the term (I'm not Catholic)!Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
Perhaps another illustration of why the general term “Christian” is not particularly workable in general discourse — especially to an outsider like me. There seem to be a lot of different ways to interpret things. I have friends who are Quakers and call themselves Christians, but believe virtually none of what, say, Catholics do.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Anyway, this all probably should be in the religion forum (I didn’t care enough to follow this tangent closely enough so I’m not too sure why it’s here.).
Let me help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
Many Christians misunderstand the point of "the Immaculate Conception."
The Immaculate Conception has nothing to do with Mary's conceiving and delivering Jesus.
The Immaculate Conception is the belief that Mary was conceived without bearing the stain of the Original Sin. According to most Christian beliefs, Adam and Eve's eating of the forbidden fruit (the Original Sin) condemns all their descendants (us) to be born stained with that sin. This stain is removed by Baptism.
Hope this helps.
And the term "Christian" is, I believe, a cathc-all term for any religion that believes in Jesus as the Son of God. There may be some other finer points but I believe this is pretty accurate,
just looked back...it stems from back in June with debate about Jesus' race...then reintroduced when Jack the Ripper responded a couple days ago to something from that debateQuote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
Without going too much further, yes there are some definite differences between Christian denominations, some more different than others, some enough of a stretch that most Christians feel are cultish. The word catholic means universal, but the Catholic church is not. They even have books in their Bible no other denomination recognizes (then there's churches like the Mormons who have an entirely separate book by Joseph Smith completely separate from the Bible).
When I sang in my gospel quartet years ago, part of our mission was to break down walls between denominations; the four of us were all from different ones, so it sometimes got interesting when we'd give personal testimonies.
I'll stop now...at least here.
Not bad and yes, Christian primarily means believing Jesus was God in human form (the Holy Trinity of God in 3 persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). A distinction, then, from Jewish beliefs (among others of course) is that they don't believe Jesus was the Messiah as Christians do...hence why they don't celebrate Christmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
So be it.
Just confusing to me and maybe others — and irksome even — when the US is occasionally referred to as “Christian” country.
We don't believe in democracy the way we supress voting. But Capitalism in it's extreme, oh heck yeah.
FWIW, over 70% of the US population identifies as Christian...which often just means they were exposed to it at some point in their lives, not necessarily that they're active in the church. About 25% out of that 70% identifies as Catholic. Compare that 70+% in the US to around 31% worldwide and you can at least understand the comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
That's a very significant problem in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES445
Capitalism = good
What we have has gone well past capitalism and into pure greed
We have too few people with too much money and that multi-generational wealth gives them far too much power. We blame elected officials, and we should, but they're also heavily influenced by those with the real power....and how do you stop that.
There's a reason my family has heard me for years 'joke' that I just wanna find a small island somewhere, close enough to get WiFi, and leave me the hell alone.
I can understand it, but I don’t buy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
The United States of America is a limited democratic republic, established by a constitution, enforced by rule of law, and serviced by a regulated capitalist economy — all with a predelection for sticking its nose into other country’s affairs.
Now, that’s a national “religion” I can buy, even if I don’t like it at times.
Ha, Ha. Same here bro, watching these Alaska reality show is making me wish I had ran to the wilderness when I was in my twenties. Far from the maddening crowd and bs.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Many identifying as a Christian often don't act like one, that's a problem. Far too many think they can do what they want 6 days a week but if they go to church on Sunday, they're good.......they're not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
sometime during lockdown binge watching I came across a show where people were buying and building a house on islands in, I think, Hudson Bay......and I was drooling....I mean I could really give two ***** about having anything remotely like a mansion, but having my own island, grow some of my own food, take a monthly boat ride for supplies...now that I would enjoyQuote:
Originally Posted by WES445
Going to church isn't about salvation for 99% of people. It's about being seen doing what is deemed to be the right thing by their peers.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Going to church os also very comforting to many. It was, at one time, for me also and I wish I could get back to that point again but I don't think that is going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
Devout and even semi-devout Christians seem to be happier people at peace within themselves. I envy some of them.
I don’t know about that. I am sure some do of course, but I think I’m more with Sluggo on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
Unlike Sluggo, though, I never had it, so I don’t know what I am missing (probably sucks more to have had it and lost it).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Oh well, back to politics.
There's always times and ways to go back. My walk has certainly been stronger in other phases of my life, but it's also been weaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
While there are most definitely people going to church for the wrong reasons, you're traveling in some really wrong circles if you think it's anywhere near 99%. I can guarantee, for example, that the vast majority of blacks in Baptists churches on Sundays down south don't fall into that category. There are also some huge Christian music festivals where tens of thousands of mostly younger people go every year.
And yes, there is a peace about life as a Christian.....well, being in such a rural environment helps, too.
But that small exposure often imbeds basic Christian principles. The may have become agnostic as to the existence of God or belief the Jesus was God but they do maintain the sense of caring, charitableness, fair play, family etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Frankly, a little religion never really hurt anyone.
The worst lies are those that we tell ourselves. This is almost always a lie that people tell themselves. Often the more outwardly pious someone is the more likely they are to be the first to gossip about "X wasn't at church today" or "did you see who Y was sitting with at church". They are there to gossip and take mental notes on who isn't doing what they should be rather than examining their own life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Again, there are people in church on Sundays for the wrong reasons, or not all the right ones. I used to say there are Christians and non-Christians at every church service. Going to church doesn't make one a Christian, and that's a sad truth some will learn the hard way.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
I would agree, though, that often people who are more in your face or 'I'm better than you because' in what they say and do...are not the Christians they'd like to think they are. I've impacted more people over the years without even knowing I was doing it than I have directly trying to (well other than my singing and testimony in concerts)
....but that's not nearly as high a percentage of people as you apparently would like to think
I've always gotten the opposite impression, growing up Catholic and attending Southern Baptist Schools in the south. Especially the latter group, some of the most miserable and hateful people I've ever encountered in my life, I would never send my children to a school with any kind of religious affiliation as a result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
I still attend mass a few times a year for my grandfather. He is 97 and needs someone to take him to Italian language Mass thats offered once a month. My experience there has ranged from useless to outwardly offensive.
man, I don't know what churches you guys have gone to, but I have yet to walk into a church and had remotely close to that experience.....and there aren't many denominations I haven't experienced..............not to say none of those people are there, it's just never been the feeling I walked away from a service with
Just the idea of being deep in nature and in harmony with it makes me envious of those who live that way. Sure it's hard work, but who here hasn't worked hard to earn money for others to support themselves. All your hard work is the sole benefit of you and yours. You may not be rich, but I was never a materialistic person. Waking up every day to beautiful landscapes absent of man-made buildings and noise of civilization. I was watching a left-wing podcaster living in a rural area, I could clearly hear crickets loudly chirping in the background and focus more on them then what was said. I am strange that way, I feel closer to God in nature than any man-made church. Probably one of the reasons I am a radical environmentalist in my old age.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
I carry baby wipes for my drooling problem when those Alaska shows come on.
I am betting they don't go to church. You can pick any group, workplace, politics, police, sports teams, school or boy scouts, there will be a varying degree of commitment to the idea of that group. But 99% don't go for salvation is a gross generalization. I don't even go with the main idea of salvation, but to focus on my spiritual growth and to be with like-minded people who encourage me and buck me up when I need it. Churches when they are good are a good support group. Some focus to much on the physical or mental aspect of their lives while ignoring the spiritual part.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Thanks to the moderators for allowing this slight detour from the norm.
I didn't search for anything, this a well known celebrity in the news.Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
I wish you could quote me and actually reply on topic.
how about racism is bad, why can't people agree on that.
abolish gang database, so who cares which known people are in gangs and likely to be violent?Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
eliminate life sentences, so really nobody that ever does something awful should never get a life sentence?
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Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
this chart is apparently gone now.
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The National Museum of African American History and Culture, part of the federal government's Smithsonian Institution system, has removed from its website a chart listing "the ways white people and their traditions, attitudes and ways of life have been normalized over time and are now considered standard practices in the United States." The chart listed individualism, hard work, objectivity, the nuclear family, a belief in progress, a written tradition, politeness, the justice system, respect for authority, delayed gratification, and planning for the future, among others, as "aspects and assumptions of whiteness" that have been "internalized" by people of color in the U.S.
Critics suggested those attributes and qualities, rather than being the product of "whiteness," are universal values that can help anyone lead a more satisfying and successful life.
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After the chart received public attention on Twitter, some observers said it perpetuated rather than reduced racism in the U.S. "Quite frankly, it's a racist document," Washington Post columnist Marc Thiessen said on Fox News on Thursday. "It's racist to say that black people don't possess these characteristics or that it is alien to black people to have these characteristics."
couple of nature stories………Quote:
Originally Posted by WES445
I was born and raised in NYC and probably never was more that 50 miles from my house. When I went into the army at 19 we were flown to Sc in the middle of the night. When I got off the plane I was literaly stunned by the amount of stars in the sky. I had never seen anything like that before.
Took a vacation to Alaska a few years ago…combo cruise, train ride, bus trips. One of the side trips was a long train ride out into the wilderness. Absolutely spectacular country at every turn. For a city boy, it was amazing. Same for the 8 hour bus ride into Denali National Park. Beautiful scenery.
Negative nature story…spent two years in Viet Nam and never once saw a bird. I guess we did a job on that place.
If you ever get a chance to see the Grand Canyon…go. Photos, videos, films etc do not do the GC justice. It needs to be seen.
If you like to drive…do the Pacific Coast Highway out west and Blue Ridge ParkwaylSkyine Drive in the east.
There is nothing more peaceful and thought provoking than quiet, natural beauty
NiceQuote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
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I use go camping a lot in my early twenties around southern Illinois, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Would love to have done some camping out west and Canada. Yes, there is nothing like being around a campfire with good company and the stars above. On rare occasions when I went fishing with friends, I would just throw a bait-less no hook line in the water so I could just enjoy the view without interruptions. Then I got married and responsibility set in. The only regret is not finding a way to continue doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
The best of all outdoor sports to me was skiing. I haven't skied since moving to Florida and it is the only thing I miss about up north. I've skied all over New England and being on top o a mountain during a snowstorm is just beautiful. Also, for some reason (probably in my head) the day after a snowstorm seems to be amazingly clear, crisp and bright.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES445