This is why they kneel

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I said flawed, not bad.
flawed because there are some that always use names of justified shootings.

all lives matter is inclusive, includes everyone.

"black lives matter" doesn't even include all black lives, it was only intended for incidents involving police.

has Black Lives Matter been against abortion? where is that protesting?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/lets-ta...ate-1531263697


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/06/u...-missouri.html

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"Black women being in control of their own reproduction is bad!" That's quite a take.

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Originally Posted by natepro

"Black women being in control of their own reproduction is bad!" That's quite a take.

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He probably doesn't even realize that's the take he described but he'll sure spin it into some other strawman.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

the rioting in Kenosha was after the justified shooting of Jacob Blake. Jacob Blake was in the wrong, he was armed with a knife, there was a warrant for his arrest.

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I guess this is supposed to be a reply to what I said?

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Originally Posted by metswon69

He probably doesn't even realize that's the take he described but he'll sure spin it into some other strawman.

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Apparently it's supposed to be "black lives matter unless you're pregnant and then you're just an incubator on legs, and we'll just ignore how high maternal mortality is for black women in this country while we're at it."

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Originally Posted by natepro

Apparently it's supposed to be "black lives matter unless you're pregnant and then you're just an incubator on legs, and we'll just ignore how high maternal mortality is for black women in this country while we're at it."

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High maternal mortality for black women is sort of part of their plan. It's not a defect, it's a feature.

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Maybe that’s the case for drugs but again if you look at total murders they committed over 50% of all total homicides while being 13% of population. Look what happens in the inner cities of Chicago, Baltimore etc every weekend

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Well murders don’t explain why they’re experience so many encounters with police considering there are roughly 10 million crimes and arrests yearly in the US while murders are only 10,000-20,000 a year. Not to mention, only a fraction of the 13% of blacks people are committing these murders a year.

So that doesn’t explain why black people are stopped by police way more, nor does it explain why they are targeted for drugs when whites people are more likely to use them.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

if you think anyone ever saying all lives matter is a counter to black lives matter, you were gullible to what you were told.

some believe in all lives, equality, that all lives matter.. not a counter to black lives matter.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-the-sign-down

with the rise in anti Asian hate, it would be better to have all lives matter and not just black lives matter which would obviously ignore Asian lives.

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Of course All Lives Matter is a counter to Black Lives Matter. It’s the exact same phrase just substituting a single word. Do you think that is just coincidence?

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Originally Posted by metswon69

No "all lives matter" is not inclusive. You think it is but its not. And black women have a higher chance of being impoverished, raped, physically abused, etc so of course, there are mitigating factors to being pro life or pro choice. Those are pretty practical reasons why someone wouldn't want to have a child or bring up a child in those very difficult set of circumstances. Its got to be great to look at this solely through a white suburban man's eyes though. Just villainize those you've had little experience dealing with or for that matter understand the differing circumstances in which many minorities live under.

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what part of ALL lives is hard to understand?

I didn't villianize anyone, I brought reality.

the rest is personal gibberish that doesn't address what was posted. impoverished, raped, physically abused is not exclusive to any race, and there are other options like adoption instead of abortion.

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Originally Posted by natepro

"Black women being in control of their own reproduction is bad!" That's quite a take.

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abortion isn't reproduction, the reproducing is done and the woman is pregnant.

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Originally Posted by valade16

Of course All Lives Matter is a counter to Black Lives Matter. It’s the exact same phrase just substituting a single word. Do you think that is just coincidence?

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you know black is part of all, right.

white lives matter would be a counter to black lives matter because that would be excluding black and replacing it with white.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

what part of ALL lives is hard to understand?

I didn't villianize anyone, I brought reality.

the rest is personal gibberish that doesn't address what was posted. impoverished, raped, physically abused is not exclusive to any race, and there are other options like adoption instead of abortion.

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It puts everything on an equal playing field (your drug) when there are specific determinant factors that disproportionately affect certain races over others. What's so hard for you to understand? Has not enough of that evidence been provided in this thread or are you that brainwashed/indoctrinated to see outside of your compartmentalized conservative scope?

You would know a thing or a thousand about personal gibberish. That's encapsulates most of the things you rant about on here but apparent,y don't have the self awareness to realize the irony or hypocrisy.

Btw, those statistics including black women having a higher mortality rate when giving birth are absolutely factors in why certain groups among BLM may not take sides with pro life or pro choice. We don't deal in life in absolutes.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

you know black is part of all, right.

white lives matter would be a counter to black lives matter because that would be excluding black and replacing it with white.

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So by this logic, does that mean Blue Lives Matter is a counter to Black Lives Matter?

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Originally Posted by valade16

So by this logic, does that mean Blue Lives Matter is a counter to Black Lives Matter?

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no, Blue Lives Matter is about police that are murdered. it's a comparable because blue isn't a race.

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Originally Posted by metswon69

It puts everything on an equal playing field (your drug) when there are specific determinant factors that disproportionately affect certain races over others. What's so hard for you to understand? Has not enough of that evidence been provided in this thread or are you that brainwashed/indoctrinated to see outside of your compartmentalized conservative scope?

You would know a thing or a thousand about personal gibberish. That's encapsulates most of the things you rant about on here but apparent don't have the self awareness to realize the irony or hypocrisy.

Btw, those statistics including black women having a higher mortality rate when giving birth are absolutely factors in why certain groups among BLM may not take sides with pro life or pro choice.

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nobody is objecting to saying black lives matter. all lives matter is not something to counter that, or in place of. it's this can be said too. it's those that only want it to be black lives matter that get triggered at people that want all lives to matter.

is this okay/acceptable?

https://blacklivesmatter.com/black-x...-0-gaNycGzNCGU

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As BLMLA organizer, Jan Williams, reminds us, “Capitalism doesn’t love Black people.” In fact, white-supremacist-capitalism invented policing, initially as chattel-slavery-era “paddy rollers,” in order to protect its interests and put targets on the backs of Black people. Under modern-day policing, those targets have been affixed to the backs of Black people

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