This is why they kneel

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Originally Posted by SiteWolf

falls into the easier to ask forgiveness than permission category

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Sort of like the rioters and looters. It's easier to ask forgiveness for destroying a few businesses than ask permission.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Sort of like the rioters and looters. It's easier to ask forgiveness for destroying a few businesses than ask permission.

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well they were doing neither, but yeah

are knowing they are immune to prosecution for wrong-doing.

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Originally Posted by SiteWolf

well they were doing neither, but yeah

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Sorry I didn't know the police were asking for forgiveness.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Sorry I didn't know the police were asking for forgiveness.

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don't believe I said they were

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Police officers should be trained to de-escalate. But they aren't. They are trained to escalate, regardless of what their leadership says. They wouldn't be continually doing it if it wasn't what they were taught to do. There aren't all these bad apples everywhere. This is what the leadership is perceiving as good apples. Bad apples are the ones who aren't out there stepping on necks, punching people for no reason, etc.

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it could be something trained, or it could be human reaction. for some when you are physically attacked you react in a similar way.

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Originally Posted by metswon69

But you felt the need to ask what incited the action like there is justification for what those cops did. If you agree with me that there is no excuse, then why don't you just leave it at that? Sometimes I feel like you argue just for the sake of doing so.

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doesn't mean it was or was not justified, but it adds context as to what happened.

we know there are incidents where something like that happens.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

doesn't mean it was or was not justified, but it adds context as to what happened.

we know there are incidents where something like that happens.

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What does the context matter? If its wrong irrespective of the previous events that led to it, its irrelevant. We're talking about the nature in which the man was arrested and that wasn't a textbook arrest. It was police brutality.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wfa...c-2b5f89bc9eae

Texas police arrested an 18 year old High School kid for walking home from his job at Wal-Mart.

Police were called and stated they were doing a welfare check. But if you were checking on his welfare and he said he was fine and did not need police, why continue to ask him questions and follow him?

Clearly, his welfare was not their primary concern. Suspicion of a crime was. This is why there is distrust for police.

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Originally Posted by valade16

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wfa...c-2b5f89bc9eae

Texas police arrested an 18 year old High School kid for walking home from his job at Wal-Mart.

Police were called and stated they were doing a welfare check. But if you were checking on his welfare and he said he was fine and did not need police, why continue to ask him questions and follow him?

Clearly, his welfare was not their primary concern. Suspicion of a crime was. This is why there is distrust for police.

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A welfare check isn't completed just by the person saying they're fine. To properly check, they'd need to ascertain that for themselves. He was walking down the middle of the street late at night. That said, unless he did actually push an officer as they said, I'd agree they should already have disengaged and it doesn't appear they were justified in arresting him.

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Originally Posted by SiteWolf

A welfare check isn't completed just by the person saying they're fine. To properly check, they'd need to ascertain that for themselves. He was walking down the middle of the street late at night. That said, unless he did actually push an officer as they said, I'd agree they should already have disengaged and it doesn't appear they were justified in arresting him.

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There is a video. He “pushed” one of the officers after he was notified he was being detained and they grabbed him to cuff him.

They walked with him for over 2 minutes, far more than enough time to ascertain for themselves he was OK. Instead they arrested him.

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Originally Posted by metswon69

What does the context matter? If its wrong irrespective of the previous events that led to it, its irrelevant. We're talking about the nature in which the man was arrested and that wasn't a textbook arrest. It was police brutality.

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because there have been similar incidents when a video starts after the police are reacting where some want to conclude the police are always wrong, when in reality that is not always the case.

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Originally Posted by valade16

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wfa...c-2b5f89bc9eae

Texas police arrested an 18 year old High School kid for walking home from his job at Wal-Mart.

Police were called and stated they were doing a welfare check. But if you were checking on his welfare and he said he was fine and did not need police, why continue to ask him questions and follow him?

Clearly, his welfare was not their primary concern. Suspicion of a crime was. This is why there is distrust for police.

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why couldn't he have cooperated. the police offered him a ride home, that is something to help. they weren't antagonizing him in the beginning.
but speculation leads to.. racist police harassing/assaulting a black man for nothing.

this escalated beyond what it needed to, but it didn't get to get to that.

how would people react if a company said black people should be less black. racist obviously.

should be the same when telling white people to be less white.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-be-less-white

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Coca-Cola is making employees go through racism training that teaches the company’s workers how to “be less white.”

“Wut.... this seems like blatant racial discrimination to this employment lawyer,” said lawyer Harmeet K. Dhillon on Twitter in response to the training.

Dhillon was responding to a post that shared images of the training allegedly being taught by Coca-Cola.

"These images are from an internal whistleblower,” the tweet said, along with images from the training.

https://twitter.com/pnjaban/status/1362876457895092225

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

how would people react if a company said black people should be less black. racist obviously.

should be the same when telling white people to be less white.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-be-less-white

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Everyone always keeps putting the white man down

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