I love how you find every excuse imaginable for the cops to blow this guy away. Kudos to you. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
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I love how you find every excuse imaginable for the cops to blow this guy away. Kudos to you. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
It is not when the cops use one. It is when a non-cop black man uses one.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
I don't think it's about feeling threatened, I think it's more a question of whether they should be singled out and treated like a minorityQuote:
Originally Posted by ewing
Killing my wife was not about her affairQuote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
The list of people whose opinions I respect less than Orenthal James Simpson is....pretty short.
I used to watch clips from the Naked Gun movies just to see this bastid get constantly beat up.
https://youtu.be/XpOwJvbyJkA
This is the kind of crap I’m talking about. Dollar Store calls the cops because a 4 year old stole a Barbie doll and the cops roll up on the car of the family with guns drawn yelling “get the **** out of the car” and “I’m going to put a cap in your ***” (yes, they literally said that).
In fact, it was the bystanders filming the event that said the police need to calm down and that they are trying to de-escalate the situation. Does it come as any surprise that these police then lied on their report about the conduct?
But Trevor Noah makes a great point “It makes you wonder how many people have been arrested and put in jail, because people assume the police version of events is always the truth?”
And it’s a great question. People automatically give the police the benefit of the doubt. That what they say and do is correct. But we have seen too many of these situations to give them that sort of benefit of the doubt anymore.
The other argument is it’s just a few bad apples. But this video shows the problem is institutional. If you replace the cop who threatens and lies, you still have a police procedure that calls for drawing weapons to apprehend a 4 year old for stealing a Barbie doll. That kind of force isn’t necessary. But it’s part of the current militarized police culture. Assume everyone is trying to kill you, even the 4 year old who stole a Barbie.
If I wanted to, I could post videos for weeks on police acting unduly aggressive in this manner. This has to stop. And thinking it’s just a few bad apples when it’s clear it’s a culture of aggression, is stopping us from stopping this problem.
I'm more just mildly amused about the fact that he has a large platform to talk current events on. I think he has a point but also fully recognize that he is not someone that one should be looking to for advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Funny world we live in.
another reason I can point to when people ask why I live in a place like SD.......I know this stuff happens, I'm totally sheltered as to the amount...........because NONE of that happens anywhere near me...
oh I know...he's one black man who would deserve a good beating or five...Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McS1LCfVXak
https://youtu.be/bAHrweM0jJE
Look at this one, black man is sitting waiting for his friends when a cop pulls up. The friends pull up thereby confirming the black man’s reason for being there. The black man gets agitated and the cop physically shoves him multiple times. Backup cops arrive.
Eventually the black man is arrested. His crime? Assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest. It’s important to note that he was not told he was under arrest until the end of the video and did not resists, and that he never actually assaulted the officer. But what’s more insidious is the fact that the police did not charge him with any crime outside the interaction with police, so he was doing nothing illegal, and he was still arrested.
As for the few bad apples. Was this cop a bad apple? What about all the other cops on scene who saw this cop arresting the man for a clearly fraudulent reason? Why didn’t they say anything?
This problem goes deeper than a few bad apples. It’s systemic, and it’s too prevalent to waive it away. This needs to stop.
I used to watch that movie more than once a week back in junior high. :laugh2:Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...zKHhIEK1oQBI5U
I’m curious if this is one of the monuments people think should stay?
A Nashville house committee voted 11 to 5 to keep a bust of Nathaniel Forrest in the state capital. Who was Nathaniel Forrest? He was a Civil War Confederate General who after the war became the first Grand Wizard of the KKK.
Anyone want to guess when the statue was created? Try 1978.
Are people here really OK with keeping monuments of known KKK members up, monuments that certainly weren’t made anywhere near the person’s lifetime but a 100 years later?
One big issue, that I mentioned in a Toronto thread, and it may apply other places. Police are often hired for what they can do physically. Not what they can do mentally or emotionally.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
I dunno what the answer is, because we all know, sometimes you do need to get physical. But maybe in a police car, one should be the force (cop) and one should be the brains (social worker).
I've also been saying for a long time that police officers should not have a deadly weapon holstered to their side, but I was told I was crazy for that. Rubber bullets, bean bag guns, tasers, whatever. Then the deadly stuff is locked in the trunk, if situations do escalate. I realize it's not perfect, but it's a start.
Edit: To go along with the vids your posting, did you see the one where the guy was shot in the butt for reaching into his car, after the cop asked him for ID. Guy asks why the cop shot him, cop says "because you reached into your vehicle", victim says "BUT YOU TOLD ME TO GET MY ID!". Lucky for everyone the victim survived that time. Can't find the video of it or I would post it.
I'd say a big "**** NO" on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16