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02-09-2022, 01:49 AM
Jack the Ripper

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Originally Posted by natepro

As I've already had to point out to one person, he created the opportunity in ways he would not have been able to if he were a cop.

And he hunted black woman as a cop. What a crazy random happenstance!

In the same way others create opportunities in ways that they would not be able to if not for their profession.

Look up Ryan Williams from Mercy-Lincoln Hospital. He was calling women to come back to the hospital for "further imaging" so that he could grope them. How many American gymnasts have spoke up about doctors or coaches sexually assaulting them? It isn't just a police issue.
02-09-2022, 01:51 AM
natepro

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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey

People should rightly be afraid of police in certain circumstances. I accidently cut off a cop a year or so ago when he tried to pass me on a freeway entrance ramp. I blocked him with my car and he was not happy and jumped out of his car. He was pissed. So, I put both of my hands on the steering wheel and then rolled my car window down and let him yell at me. He didn;t draw his weapon but I'd say he was close to it. I explained what I was trying to do which was to pull off to the side on the ramp and ended up instead blocking him. I also apologized and he settled down and we went out respective ways.

Was the cop out of line? Yeah, I guess so. But he was on a call and I made the wrong move so he was pissed. However, shooting my own mouth off wasn't going to do me a bit of good.

"I cut a cop off on the freeway so he almost pulled his gun on me" is supposed to be a good story?
02-09-2022, 01:51 AM
Jack the Ripper

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Originally Posted by natepro

You literally did exactly what I said you would. :laugh2:

You think there's people of all demographics that fear the police and people of all demographics that don't? Oh yea! Well here's some facts proving that. WTF, man? lol
02-09-2022, 01:52 AM
natepro

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

In the same way others create opportunities in ways that they would not be able to if not for their profession.

Look up Ryan Williams from Mercy-Lincoln Hospital. He was calling women to come back to the hospital for "further imaging" so that he could grope them. How many American gymnasts have spoke up about doctors or coaches sexually assaulting them? It isn't just a police issue.

No one said it was.
02-09-2022, 01:54 AM
natepro

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

You think there's people of all demographics that fear the police and people of all demographics that don't? Oh yea! Well here's some facts proving that. WTF, man? lol

Right, this is exactly what I said you'd do. Man.
02-09-2022, 01:55 AM
Jack the Ripper

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Originally Posted by natepro

No one said it was.

"As I've already had to point out to one person, he created the opportunity in ways he would not have been able to if he were a cop."

So then what exactly is your point? That a psychopath cop can prey on women? ****ing duh, dude. Same with a psychopath in literally any other profession. Some girl is getting fondled against her will at a Burger King right now as we speak. What point are you trying to make?
02-09-2022, 01:56 AM
Jack the Ripper

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Originally Posted by natepro

Right, this is exactly what I said you'd do. Man.

Okay?
02-09-2022, 01:57 AM
Jack the Ripper

Yea, but, cops are like... a little more evil, man.
02-09-2022, 01:58 AM
natepro

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

"As I've already had to point out to one person, he created the opportunity in ways he would not have been able to if he were a cop."

So then what exactly is your point? That a psychopath cop can prey on women? ****ing duh, dude. Same with a psychopath in literally any other profession. Some girl is getting fondled against her will at a Burger King right now as we speak. What point are you trying to make?

My point is, and has always been, that this:

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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey

Once again, there is no place in the US where any black person should feel scared to walk down a street and be attacked by a cop. To listen to you and your cop hating buddies you make it ridiculous to take you seriously.

Is not true, because there are places where black people have that fear. You randomly bringing up other demographics and other criminals doesn't change that.
02-09-2022, 02:00 AM
Jack the Ripper

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Originally Posted by natepro

My point is, and has always been, that this:
Is not true, because there are places where black people have that fear. You randomly bringing up other demographics and other criminals doesn't change that.

Then you probably should have used a better example than, "Hey, look at this rapist who raped people. This proves my point."
02-09-2022, 02:03 AM
Bird of Prey

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Originally Posted by natepro

This make believe **** gets tiresome.

Two thirds of black Americans don't trust the police to treat them equally. That's not true for whites (70% either "a great deal" or "a fair amount"), it's not true for Latinos (63% "a great deal" or "a fair amount"), but blacks are lower on both of those and individually by a significant margin. 6% of blacks surveyed have "a great deal" of trust that the police treat blacks and whites equally; 42% of whites do.

And we could talk about the disproportionate amount of violence young black males experience at the hands of police, and the psychological effects that has, but I think we both know you don't really care about any of that if you're making statements like this.

So, sure, because people like to hide behind being technically right around here, we could say that there are people from "all demographics" that fear the police. But, first, that's not a refutation of what I said, and second, it's deliberately missing the point. There's a reason why a phrase like "the talk" exists, to the point that it even has it's own Wikipedia article - a point I have every confidence will also be intentionally misunderstood. But, again, you don't care about any of that, either, right?

The issue that I was talking about is that black people should not fear cops hurting them if they are minding their own business. I say a lot of this "reputation" for cops is undeserved. and will actually hurt the safety of the blacks in their own community. Your "percentage" items are different issues. Being treated equally is a pretty general opinion that can be skewed by rumor, ********, or misunderstanding for example.

As far as the violence done to young blacks compared to other races by cops, I would say that this might be true but I wonder how the different races react to cops stopping them, argue with them, or even resisting them?
02-09-2022, 02:03 AM
natepro

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

Then you probably should have used a better example than, "Hey, look at this rapist who raped people. This proves my point."

Right, because that definitely wouldn't have been the reaction with any other crime a cop committed.
02-09-2022, 02:06 AM
natepro

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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey

The issue that I was talking about is that black people should not fear cops hurting them if they are minding their own business. I say a lot of this "reputation" for cops is undeserved. and will actually hurt the safety of the blacks in their own community. Your "percentage" items are different issues. Being treated equally is a pretty general opinion that can be skewed by rumor, ********, or misunderstanding for example.

As far as the violence done to young blacks compared to other races by cops, I would say that this might be true but I wonder how the different races react to cops stopping them, argue with them, or even resisting them?

Not "minding your own business" is not a license for cops to hurt someone.
02-09-2022, 02:09 AM
Jack the Ripper

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Originally Posted by natepro

Right, because that definitely wouldn't have been the reaction with any other crime a cop committed.

You found one instance of a cop who used his profession to rape women. You could find a rapist in every other profession out there. It was a poor attempt at making your point and this has already been explained to you by more than one person.
02-09-2022, 02:12 AM
natepro

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Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper

You found one instance of a cop who used his profession to rape women. You could find a rapist in every other profession out there. It was a poor attempt at making your point and this has already been explained to you by more than one person.

And surely the only instance, right? I definitely wouldn't be able to find plenty more.

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