This is why they kneel

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

Question I will ask (again)……

Do you think the police went out there and just started shooting tear gas (and it was smoke, not tear gas) and pepper bullets or do you think they asked the crowd to move back (most likely several times) and the crowd would not move???

Seriously…what do you think happened????

And if your answer was they were protesting on public property…just save it. They could have protested on public property 50 yards back. As it was, they were blocking access to the church.

Just like if a few hundred people stood on the street (public space) in front of your driveway blocking access, the police would be called to move them.

It is always best, and by far easiest, to do what the police tell you to do.

Why don't ypu just say that you don't like the police???

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Protesting is just beyond your comprehension.

Our leader's mindset is more about shutting down social unrest then relieving the cause of social unrest. Which was pretty evident by the events of the last week.

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Originally Posted by WES445

So either American citizens are the most criminal population in the world to need that much money to ensure the peace or our government is repressive.

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You need that many officers to make sure that privately owned prisons can stay profitable.

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Originally Posted by WES445

Our leader's mindset is more about shutting down social unrest then relieving the cause of social unrest. Which was pretty evident by the events of the last week.

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The current president doesn't think the former president was born in the US because of the color of his skin and demanded a birth certificate as proof. He is the leader of the "go back to your own country" crowd.

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Originally Posted by WES445

Our leader's mindset is more about shutting down social unrest then relieving the cause of social unrest. Which was pretty evident by the events of the last week.

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Very heavy on the order, and not so much of the law. It's like we're in the 60s or early 80s again. Literally have made no progress. And as bad as those Presidents were, at least they had ridges in their brains. Trump's just a neanderthalic version of them.

Good thing Democrats did everything in their power to make sure this guy, who isn't even 1/10th as coherent now as he was then, won the Democratic nomination! Big "Law and Order" guy!

Maybe he's evolved but man he walked and talked like a Republican so god damn frequently. Moderate Republicans who don't get sucked up into the reactionary right-wing culture war nonsense should be thrilled to vote for him. He's a capitalist to his core, tough on crime and as moderate as it gets.

Woo hoo!

Sorry. Biden rant over. I just can't help myself.

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Originally Posted by SiteWolf

those combat vehicles and rocket launchers aren't cheap, man

so the NYPD's budget is more than LA, Chicago, Houston, and Philly COMBINED?!
biggest of any city I understand....not the next 5 total

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After 911 when everyone look to cops as gods the budget grew immensely and rightly so because the city needed defense from terrorism, but now it’s just bloated beyond belief.

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Originally Posted by ManRam

Very heavy on the order, and not so much of the law. It's like we're in the 60s or early 80s again. Literally have made no progress. And as bad as those Presidents were, at least they had ridges in their brains. Trump's just a neanderthalic version of them.

Good thing Democrats did everything in their power to make sure this guy, who isn't even 1/10th as coherent now as he was then, won the Democratic nomination! Big "Law and Order" guy!

Maybe he's evolved but man he walked and talked like a Republican so god damn frequently. Moderate Republicans who don't get sucked up into the reactionary right-wing culture war nonsense should be thrilled to vote for him. He's a capitalist to his core, tough on crime and as moderate as it gets.

Woo hoo!

Sorry. Biden rant over. I just can't help myself.

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Oh, it goes back farther than that with the labor movement and to some extent the woman movement. If we really look at as a struggle between the have and the havenot, I will extend to the civil war were we had to pry blacks from the cold dead hands of the confederate's greed. These politicians with their donors' backers have always suppressed the poor for the rich gain. The rich have always corrupted our politicians. Biden cohorts are just following their professional creed. Now with no opposition (an FDR or TR), they are willing to run this country into the ground for a few coins.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

I thought you were like super busy with your vacation?

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I swear. Reading comprehension is so lacking in this site. Try again superman.

You simply couldn't have commented on my post?

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

I swear. Reading comprehension is so lacking in this site. Try again superman.

You simply couldn't have commented on my post?

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I guess I must have been hallucinating when I saw you post something about going on vacation, not knowing what this thread would be like by the time you came back (as if you'd be away for a decent stretch of time), and needing a quick answer because of that.

Strange. I guess I should wait until the LSD wears off before addressing you in the future. My bad.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

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what should the police use when confronting people rioting?

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

what should the police use when confronting people rioting?

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Are you saying the NYPD needs a budget equal to Ukraine's entire military spending to effectively handle these protests?

For starters, they could stop showing up with weapons of war and instigating violence. Also, an easy way to prevent these protests would be for them to stop killing people and to start holding police who can't effectively do their jobs accountable. Just a thought!!!

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Originally Posted by ManRam

Are you saying the NYPD needs a budget equal to Ukraine's entire military spending to effectively handle these protests?

For starters, they could stop showing up with weapons of war and instigating violence. Also, an easy way to prevent these protests would be for them to stop killing people and to start holding police who can't effectively do their jobs accountable. Just a thought!!!

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I asked a question.

are you one of the many confusing protesting with rioting?

I specifically said rioting, not protesting.

burning buildings is not protesting. looting is not protesting. violence and physically attacking people is not protesting. attacking police officers is not protesting. these are rioting and they happened, so my simple question was what should the police use when confronting these people.

when confronted with people that have their own home made weapons, what would be better for the police to gain control. this is what should happen, not allowing American businesses to burn, not allowing people to be harassed and attacked.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

I guess I must have been hallucinating when I saw you post something about going on vacation, not knowing what this thread would be like by the time you came back (as if you'd be away for a decent stretch of time), and needing a quick answer because of that.

Strange. I guess I should wait until the LSD wears off before addressing you in the future. My bad.

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I must have been on the same batch of acid.