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what did he mean by this?Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
if she is going to call the police, what is he going to do that he wants to that she is not going to like?Quote:
"Look, if you're going to do what you want, I'm going to do what I want, but you're not going to like it."
a woman alone in the park, that could be scary regardless of who it's coming from.
I don't see anyone vilifying the entire protest because some loot or riot. those that are rioting, and looting, and burning the neighborhood, they are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
in comparison, if some are legally protesting the removal of a statue in Charlotesville and some racist white supremacists are also there to cause trouble, why should those protesting also be vilified?
rioting deflects attention to the rioting/looting and not on the police officer that should be the story for the death of George Floyd. how many people rioting are even aware that the FBI was already investigating it?Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
I'm not sticking up for anyone. I specifically said "per rules she should have had the dog on a leash." she was in the wrong for what she did, but she could have also been justifiably afraid because of what he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
I think it'd have been a clean kill.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
that doesn't exist in other workplace environments. If I saw another lawyer doing bad ****, I would turn them in myself. And I would fully expect them to do the same to me. Its not my job to protect shitbags like this cop, regardless if he has the same job as me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
well, on that I'd say there IS a difference....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
If I'm a CPA and turn in another CPA, I can go to another firm and the fact I turned them in doesn't necessarily follow me to my new firm. If I'm a police officer and turn in another police officer, I guarantee that fact follows me and that some, regardless of cause, will view me as a snitch. Police officers expect fellow officers to watch their back. CPAs have no such expectation.
The fact that it needs to be spelled out for you further shows that there's no point trying to talk some sense in to you. The police's job is to protect the citizens of the area they patrol, not kill innocent people and create a relationship with their community based on fear. That's quite a bit more responsibility and power than a butcher or a baker (duh).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Of course you don't. Let's fire that special race thread back up for old time's sake!Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
Everyone is well aware that the rioting and looting is because of what happened with George Floyd. Not saying these looters chose the best route to express themselves but what they are doing is certainly keeping Floyd's name on the tip of everyone's tongue.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
I don't suppose you've considered that if cops would stop killing black people unnecessarily that there wouldn't be a brand available. Did you?Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
Alright but isn't that like saying Arbery is solved by not stealing a hammer from the site or not grabbing the gun?Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
I am pointing out that when someone gets threatened and then fears someone due to what they may do to their dog it is likely to get an over the top reaction. This is based not on anything but the action taken that could present this fear. I mentioned when Valade made the comparison to Arbery, the threat creates a fear here for the dog which is likely to get a reaction (just like chasing someone with guns confronting might get one like him grabbing it).
The context in this situation matters, he could have not threatened her and handled it correctly avoiding the reaction completely by not creating that fear (like the Mcmichels didn't need to chase down and had others handle it).
There is a huge difference between police officers not turning on another police officer vs a baker not turning on another baker.
If they had no power...then fine. But they do. And it's their responsibility to do so. Or they're a piece of ****.
If someone died or was abused and you don't turn them in or testify against them, you're the lowest of low.
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Agreed. A police officer needs to trust another police officer with his life. There's a bond in that which very few professions match. That's part of the reason why officers protect other officers. That said, someone has to have enough guts in that situation to get Chauvin off Floyd. The problem is the 2 of the other officers were new to the job and the other one already had an excessive force lawsuit filed against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by blams
It was a bad recipe. Like i said before, if you are applying to be a cop, there needs to be a more thorough vetting process, annual psychological evaluations, more integration into minority neighborhoods, stronger discipline (up unto firing) for cops with multiple serious complaints, more training to de-escalate situations and the use of less necessary force in situations that call for it.
That's not full proof either but its more thorough than what they are currently doing. That's just a small list too. There are more ways to make for a better police force.
Am I reading this right, we're now comparing protecting our fellow employees when they murder someone to protecting our fellow employees when baking bread, cutting a piece of meat, or making a candle incorrectly?
All of this just to justify our racism. Very nice. Reminds me of how horrible of a person Pelosi was for showing off her glamorous stock of ice cream.