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04-23-2021, 12:33 AM
WES445

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Here's the question I have for you on this. Are they truly independent? Or are they saying they are independent and really voting one direction? Because it's popular to say you aren't a Democrat or Republican, but I don't believe that people are really voting in an independent fashion.

I will also say that the furthest back that Gallup goes from 40% independent in January 2004 to 41% in March 2021.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/p...filiation.aspx

Well of course they are voting for either democrat or republican since they haven't been an 'independent" candidate. the two parties made it hard to establish a third party even if one appears.

I can only speak on why I became independent. Lost faith in the democrat party. Starting to question our whole political system
04-23-2021, 01:05 AM
MRSpock

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Originally Posted by WES445

Well if this is another thing to bash a moderate, Maxine, sure. Do you think I am a Maxine Waters fan or are you taking this time to vent on her for my amusement? That is your opinion, I am sure those protesters didn't think that way when Maxine showed her support for them. You can say Obama acted like an activist when he spoke at an anti-Iraq invasion rally, Robert F, Kennedy act like one when spoke at an anti-Vietnam war and tour the south to witness the poverty that black suffered under Jim Crow. All these incidents strengthen their followers' support for them. So I don't know what your beef is outside the fact that those who are doing this now you don't like for political reasons.

Just because you said our complaints are bs doesn't mean they are. Hell, we when through four years here listening to republican posters said the same thing about the complaints against Trump. Y'all share the same trait, you dismiss anything that attacks your boy or in your case girl angrily. Tribalism, thou shalt never criticize the leadership. I am sure you will let me know when I break some more commandments y'all hold dear.

Those progressive beat moderate democrat, so somebody in those districts aren't too happy with mod democrats as well. All of those mods had the full endorsement of Pelosi and the DNC. Notice the number of progressive are steadily climbing, small but climbing. Maybe if Biden is successful in pulling off progressive policies, the mod can undercut the progressive and win back those seats. It is all on the Mods to win back the progressive vote. Bit ch and moan about progressive all you want but it was people's lack of faith in the moderate that open the door to them.

Well at least you straight up admit that you'll support anything that bashes a politician you don't like. Showing none of your opinions on any nuanced subject should be taken seriously. Kind of just completely proved my point that you're a progressive hack.

Yeah man. They've taken seats in the furthest left districts in the USA. Next stop Texas!

And I'm not really against their candidates as much as I'm against their sycophantic cult like followers that often end up trying to push narratives that the Dems and GOP are the same.

I'll continue looking at candidates rationally. And what policies they get passed. You can continue chosing based on how woke their Twitter is with the rest if the children.
04-23-2021, 01:06 AM
MRSpock

And BTW you still haven't had a legit complaint related to her job. Just more progressive rhetoric about "the establishment" and the "status quo".
04-23-2021, 01:13 AM
MRSpock

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

I mean he’s right to a point that these groups don’t care about that kind of stuff. They could care less about inner city crime but if a cop shoots someone that’s even justified they would protest and some even riot. That’s not racist that’s how a lot of these groups are.

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BLMs cause is to fight against police brutality.

They don't spend time talking about the dangers of high cholesterol in the black community either.

It's weird that you'd have an expectation for them to attack every issue regarding what's endangering black people.

They have a cause. And furthermore you guys are misunderstanding the issue with police brutality in the black community. It's not just how many die. It's about the effect it has beyond that.
04-23-2021, 01:17 AM
MRSpock

And btw. I don't see black people denying gang violence is a problem.

Or denying it's occurring. Or justifying it the way the right wing has for generations with police brutality.

Remember the case with Chauvin was almost covered up. So then people go "oh this is a outlier"... Is it? Or is it what the black community has been saying for decades?
04-23-2021, 01:41 AM
WES445

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Originally Posted by MRSpock

Well at least you straight up admit that you'll support anything that bashes a politician you don't like. Showing none of your opinions on any nuanced subject should be taken seriously. Kind of just completely proved my point that you're a progressive hack.

Well course I bash those politicians I don't approve of, you have done it yourself with Trump. So I guess your opinion of Trump makes you a political hack as well. I never heard of a person who doesn't bash politicians they didn't like here in the PSD. Now you are just being silly because you can't accept my reason for dissing mods.

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Yeah man. They've taken seats in the furthest left districts in the USA. Next stop Texas!

And I'm not really against their candidates as much as I'm against their sycophantic cult like followers that often end up trying to push narratives that the Dems and GOP are the same.

HAHAHA said the guy who spits fire anytime someone criticizes his girl. Hate to break to you but one is ineffective because they let problems fester while the other is just plain cracked. Choose which insult fit the democrat. See there is a difference but they both still suck.

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I'll continue looking at candidates rationally. And what policies they get passed. You can continue chosing based on how woke their Twitter is with the rest if the children.

Yup, that is you, Mr. Rational anything else we should know about you that will make us more in awe of you? Ego trip much?
04-23-2021, 01:49 AM
WES445

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Originally Posted by MRSpock

And BTW you still haven't had a legit complaint related to her job. Just more progressive rhetoric about "the establishment" and the "status quo".

Oh, my sweet lord, you haven't listened to a word I said. Basically discounting them as worthless. Ohh, well I tried. I know a brick wall when I see one.
04-23-2021, 02:25 AM
Brewersfan255

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You don't think there groups who's cause is solving gang violence? As for the media an cop story is more layered and intriguing then a violent gang member story. I don't understand what your point is?

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I mean I’m sure there are but you really don’t hear about it anywhere because it doesn’t drive ratings...

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04-23-2021, 03:57 AM
nastynice

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Yes it does. All I hear is they shot a 16 year old girl! Or a 13 year old boy! All justified shootings where either the cop was in danger or another person was in danger yet the media and these groups see completely silent when a 7 year old would be shot in a crossfire from a gang shooting.

There’s no doubt there’s some cases where the cops were racist and killings weren’t justified but I bet you more kids are shot and killed in crossfire from gang shootings rather than police “targeting” people over the course of a year

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Absolutely idiotic reply. Do you dismiss anti abortionist because they do not stand up for other baby rights? Come on, how do you not see the ridiculousness of this?

Our system exerts itself in a racist manner. Whether you believe that is true or not is irrelevant because it is true for many minorities across the country. Period.

People who stand against this and ask for change do not additionally carry the burden of speaking out against gang violence.

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04-23-2021, 03:59 AM
nastynice

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

I mean I’m sure there are but you really don’t hear about it anywhere because it doesn’t drive ratings...

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So what difference does it make if YOU hear about it?

If you dont hear something personally it doesnt exist?

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04-23-2021, 04:34 AM
MRSpock

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Originally Posted by WES445

Well course I bash those politicians I don't approve of, you have done it yourself with Trump. So I guess your opinion of Trump makes you a political hack as well. I never heard of a person who doesn't bash politicians they didn't like here in the PSD. Now you are just being silly because you can't accept my reason for dissing mods. HAHAHA said the guy who spits fire anytime someone criticizes his girl. Hate to break to you but one is ineffective because they let problems fester while the other is just plain cracked. Choose which insult fit the democrat. See there is a difference but they both still suck.

Yup, that is you, Mr. Rational anything else we should know about you that will make us more in awe of you? Ego trip much?

If I started bashing Trump for policies I like just because Trump does it you'd have a point. But alas I actually give very specific reasons for when I have a problem with a policy or opinion.

I don't really defend Pelosi. I more point out that your complaints are just biased ******** and never have anything to do with her actual job. And your inability to do so shows 2 things. You are a political hack and you are completely ignorant when it comes to the political system.

And lol at you even pretending that you have a legit complaint. Just vague horse **** about the Dems. Of course once again Bernie gets a pass here.

I'm in awe of a 60 year old demsoc who still treats political groups like a sports team. A guy who calls Malcolm x a hero but ***** on pelosi for not doing anything lol.
04-23-2021, 05:10 AM
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04-23-2021, 05:19 AM
WES445

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Originally Posted by MRSpock

If I started bashing Trump for policies I like just because Trump does it you'd have a point. But alas I actually give very specific reasons for when I have a problem with a policy or opinion.

I don't really defend Pelosi. I more point out that your complaints are just biased ******** and never have anything to do with her actual job. And your inability to do so shows 2 things. You are a political hack and you are completely ignorant when it comes to the political system.

And lol at you even pretending that you have a legit complaint. Just vague horse **** about the Dems. Of course once again Bernie gets a pass here.

I'm in awe of a 60 year old demsoc who still treats political groups like a sports team. A guy who calls Malcolm x a hero but ***** on pelosi for not doing anything lol.

I think more young black boys know about Malcolm and admire him more than Pelosi. Just plain nutty for you to think that Nancy, been on the black bandwagon before I was born, Pelosi was more important to blacks than Malcolm X

You don't defend her but you elevate her higher in the civil rights movement than a leader that blacks admire. I am not even surprised. You diss two black leaders, one I ain't crazy about, and another who is greatly admired by blacks and then push Pelosi as something better.

I don't know why you make these personal attacks when I could give two craps and a bag of chips about what you think of me. You only give respect to those who support your team captain. Everybody else is dumb and hacks. Smell that aroma you are letting off, ahh pure tribalism.
04-23-2021, 05:22 AM
WES445

BTW, I had a poster of Malcolm X on my bedroom wall when I was a kid because I just couldn't find a poster of Nancy Pelosi anywhere. Oh, how unaware blacks are to her greatness.

Silly person
04-23-2021, 05:58 AM
MRSpock

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Originally Posted by WES445

I think more young black boys know about Malcolm and admire him more than Pelosi, What a f'ing loser you are to think that Nancy, been on the black bandwagon before I was born, Pelosi was more important to blacks than Malcolm X

You don't defend her but you elevate her higher in the civil rights movement than a leader that blacks admire. I am not even surprised. You diss two black leaders, one I ain't crazy about, and another who is greatly admired by blacks and then push Pelosi.

Got any more rich white folks politicians you want to put in place of our black leaders? I am sure it will go over well in the black community. Be like the old days of Jim Crow.

No I'm saying Malcolm didn't do ****. Or at least anything useful. Point completely went over your head lol.

I mean which views of his do you celebrate exactly?

His pro separatists anti integration beliefs? Or how he tried to negotiate an ethnostate with the clan?

Malcolm X almost lead civil rights into the ****ing ground. It was only later in his life did he drop his more radical views. And then he was murdered. Likely by the same Islamic group that he'd convinced thousands if black people to join.

The fact that you have an MLK quote on your profile and a Malcolm X poster in you room says a lot. You are confused lol.

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