That's sluggo after the club 30 years ago, lol!Quote:
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That's sluggo after the club 30 years ago, lol!Quote:
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I know right! You and chef tell em!!Quote:
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We're not going to paint that somewhere in 10 feet yellow letters are we???Quote:
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There's nothing jucier then an old white man telling people what they can and can't be offended overQuote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Nah, he'd probably rat me out.Quote:
Originally Posted by flips333
Apparently, that’s an Arrestable offence. Like the people writing “preborn black lives matter” in chalk in front of an abortion clinic. Weird how one word can change things...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
First Paw Patrol, now Looney Tunes. When will this madness end?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
Where have I said that????Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powders
Seriously? You've rallied against the whole BLM movement as a whole which is basically people being offended because they are being mistreated. I mean, that's your defining quality around here. That and using GASP!!!!! in quotations after Fox news and using way to many question marks and exclamation marksQuote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Bow to your new masters, whitey....Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoots
Go back and find the posts I've written about BLM and you will find that I agree with many of the precepts of the original movement. I still do. I do not agree with many of the later concepts that it has been distorted into.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powders
You may fond this interesting………
https://www.ibtimes.com/kentucky-res...-mafia-3021754
Then again, you may not.
The Fox News (GASP!!!) notation is to save time by not having some of you come back agitated by the mention of FOX News (GASP!!!). The mere mention of FOX seems to send a lot of you around. the bend
If too (too not to) ??? or !!! get you upset, well I guess it goes along with all the profanity on these boards that annoys me.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powders
I did read the article and did find it interesting. Did you find it interesting? I'm not going to pretend I've even been to Louisville, Kentucky, let alone the NuLu area. Have you? This actually proves my point to a tee. There's people in Louisville who feel they've been wronged. A housing project in the area was dozed to make way for housing that wasn't affordable for the.previous residents. Are you ok with displacing so many citizens? Was there a plan to help those displaced?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
As for their demands, :shrug:
They obviously won't get what they are asking for, but those demands don't seem too outlandish to me but me.
You mentioning Fox News doesn't get me in a bend. I find you saying GASP!!!!! Everytime to be the equivalent to the bad comic repeating the same bad pointless joke, some new material to would be better.
Who said it makes me mad? Certainly not me. You putting words in my mouth now, slugster.
SeriouslyQuote:
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This is distraction from the real problem.Quote:
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People breaking laws isn't a real problem? Pass that **** over brother. I want some of what you're smoking.Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
Bolded……For you to make a statement such as that is absolutely astounding. Think about it for a minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powders
Do you want to be told where to buy your milk, bread, meat etc.??? Do you want to be told what store to go to to buy your clothes, gas, home supplies??? Do you want to be told where to buy your car??? Hoiw about where to live and what house to buy???
Someone in business, any business, has one purpose in mind……selling something to someone else for a profit. He does that by providing a satisfactory product at an acceptable price. The best way yo do that is to keep costs down and buy quality materials. The best way to do that is to hire good employers and have a solid and reliable supply chain. And you make those decisions on your own.
As soon as you are forced to buy something (employee or supplier) two things happen: 1. there is a good chance you will pass up on a better employee or supplier and 2. The guy you are forced to hire or buy from will slack off work or raise their prices just because they can.
For you to buy into this concept, even on a small basis, is incredible. And you are not alone.
And it goes back to what I said originally…I support the basic concepts of BLM; but when it gets to this point, we part company.
There's obviously ways it can be done that don't include telling people where to buy their milk and eggs. Give black people more opportunity to be able to get into small business is one example. This movement is in the very early stages and things will evolve. It's not as black and white, no pun intended, as you make it out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
What are the basic concepts of BLM that you support?
People looking for diversions. Don’t look at the root cause of all this, let’s pivot to the looters taking advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
Same **** every damn time. I’m just worn out on this tired old game.
Bash people when they kneel. Bash people when they protest on the street. Bash them when it escalates to property damage, but never ever acknowledge the root problem.
And defend the team (GOP) at all costs even when it’s lead by someone (Trump) they spent months mocking and demonizing themselves. That’s the worst part. Everyone now defending him is well aware of how bad he is, but the right will take the worst republican over a moderate Dem. Blind tribalism and with that he can convince the base of anything he wants.
Read the letter that BLM was giving out to the business owners. It is pretty black and white (no pun intended). It is telling you who to hire and who to buy from. This is a plan for failure and will never be accepted. And, frankly, I am surprised more on these boards did not pick up on this and support what I said. (Well not totally surprised)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powders
It is also what the Mafia was famous for doing. As a business owner, try to get your trash removed in NYC. Try to compare prices top get the best deal…you will be told who you will be dealing with.
Bolded………
Police tactics need to be overhauled.
Police need to be held accountable for what they know and see their police brethren doing. Break down the blue wall.
Police need way more training on community issues.
Drug laws need to be overhauled. Legalize some drugs.
Come up with a better Public Defender system (don't know if that is a BLM issue or my suggestion). Maybe require law firms to do more pro-bono work
Prison reform–get these people educated in prison. Maybe build more and smaller prisons to eliminate overcrowding.
Come up with a better for low income housing.
These are all things that most sensible people will go along with. Some of the socialist ideas they throw round juast will never be accepted and do BLM movement way more harm than good.
Police tactics need to be overhauled? Like police reform? That thing that's been called for over the last several decades?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Police need to start holding themselves accountable lol. Like they're just going to magically do that?
Police funnel money for "community issues" from other local departments. Take public health for example. They cut services and use the money to line their pockets or to pay the salaries of suspended pigs.
Prison reform? Spending more money on the prison population? Isn't that privatized in the US though? You expect a privatized prison system who's only purpose is to benefit off prisoners to actually spend more money to help the prisoners?
You live in a fantasy World lol.
Public sector unions need to go. Unions were created to stop corporations from taking advantage of their workers. Why do police, teachers, bus drivers, etc need unions? These unions only create a pack mentality in the workforce. Bad police, bad teachers, etc need to be fired without a hassle.Quote:
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the governmentQuote:
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of them.Quote:
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I love posts like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3
People say I have my head in the sand…I hope they read your post.
Everything I mentioned requires something called CHANGE. Everything I mentioned are aspects that many, if not ,most, people would tend to go along with. And if ever there was a time ripe for change and different thinking it is the present.
But to you it is fantasy world.
OK…you have the floor. Your suggestions are……………
I don't really care for unions but they are not going to go away. I could live with a few simple common sense changes that the typical working stiff would understand and accept.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
……Eliminate 20 year retirements. The fact that you can do this is absurd.
……Pension based on base pay (not gross pay with ridiculous OT) of final year's salary. If you make $1,000 a week your pension should be based on $52,000 annual salary
……Limit how many sick days and vacation days you can "bank" to be paid off when you retire. One year of each should be plenty. This is also ridiculous. (My sister retired from a clerk's job and received a check in excess of $40K for unused sick and vacation days. Plus her pension.) In essence this is used as a retirement bonus. And why should you be paid for unused sick days at all???
……Uniform allowance - instead of giving them cash, cities should just give them the uniforms. Lost of these guys take the cash and never buy the uniforms
The problem with municipal unions is that the people that are negotiating from management's side (usually politicians) have no skin in the game. It's not their money they are giving up. Voters don't remember or realize any of this. Even private sector unions have to answer to boards of directors and stockholders. Municipal unions have no such accountability.
The LA teachers union us negotiating topics that have nothing to do with the teachers union. How ridiculous is that.
Guess what happens enough as it is but would happen FAR more if sick leave were NOT paid out (in most gov't jobs there's either a max number or max percentage...it's not 100%).........far Far FAR too often you end up with people who are often 'not feeling well' on Fridays and Mondays...utilizing their bank of sick leave as a way to save up vacation time. We had a gal in my office who was getting away with that for years....rarely used vacation time, but sick leave rarely built up to more than a few days before she'd have another brief 'illness'........but she had plenty of vacation time paid out to her when she resigned.
Man, if I was able to retire for 20 years I could sure find plenty of things I'd like to be able to do...
Lee Iacocca in his book made the point that auto workers with the most experience and value are retiring after twenty years and becoming cab drivers and are being replaced by cab drivers with no experience. His valid point made me stop and thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
(Before everyone goes nuts, use the term "cab driver" to refer to an entry level, no experience position.)
What happens in a lot of situations is people reach the years where their pension is maxed out and their only incentive to keep working would be to increase their pension with a promotion. If they don't feel they'll get one or a significant increase in pay otherwise, with the years in they start burning out where they're at....and since it cuts into their pension if they retire and take a higher paying job, if they continue working they take a lower paying, lower stress job once they retire. I had a boss who worked for the government his entire adult life, retired at 55 with over 30 years in, then took a retail job with just enough hours to get insurance (he didn't care what he got paid, it was the insurance he was after).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
Lee wasn't wrong, but the typical pension system is to blame. People live longer these days and those who can retire younger, which not only puts less experienced people in a lot of positions but puts that much more pressure on pension funds........similar to the pressure on the social security system with the baby boomers retiring
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
I was a member of two unions in my time (one for only 2 mos, one for about 8 mos) and I hated every minute of it. Constant us vs them attitude. Just awful.
My first job ever was a union job (3 years) and I loved it. Having a rep as an advocate for your pay and well being was invaluable when a kid would otherwise just be abused by the dollar squeezing of a corporation.
Unions certainly can become corrupt or skewed in power like we see with some teachers unions, teamsters and police. But there are areas where they are essential and it’s sad to see them going extinct.
Especially in a time like now when hourly workers are being forced to sacrifice safety and health (without significant coverage) and be overworked, knowing the alternative is a massive unemployment market.
Bold 1………Bob Cratchett, is that you??? How's Tiny Tim doing???Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
Bold 2……Yeah, but let's have open borders. All are welcome.
Sounds like your go to political stance, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
..and religious, and racial...
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lol yeah you are normally a unifierQuote:
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Nobody is asking for open borders.Quote:
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So the govt should be in control of healthcare and the only ones to have firearms but we can’t trust them to pay a fair wage? Seems legit...Quote:
Originally Posted by flips333
In my early 20s, I worked in a union doing data entry. 6 months into the job, we had to sign a new contract. The people who had been into the job for years wanted higher pay and better healthcare. I tried to explain to them that literally anyone could do our job, so asking for a $5 an hour raise and full benefits wasn’t likely. Also, unlike teachers or nurses no one would give a **** if we went on strike. But of course the rebel rousers, who conveniently get paid while we were out on strike, convinced everyone otherwise. So we rejected the company’s contract offer and went out on strike. 3 days later, when the company didn’t budge because they had replaced us with short term hires, we approved the first original offer.... yeah, unions are so needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
Can we make a thread for made up Union stories?
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