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I noted this as well either here or other thread but kind of just contrasting the police actions from shooting him in the back 7 times compared to letting Rittenhouse just walk away freely with his gun still after killing two people and shooting/injuring another.
Just one of the many many examples of how our past racist policies effects neighborhoods today: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...e=articleShare
When we talk about reallocating funds to support better schools, social programs, etc in black neighborhoods, it’s to offset lingering effects.
Idk. What actually happens? You tell us? What’s the procedure? How is it deck stacked in the unions favor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
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Yes they do. Police unions and unions in general make it more difficult for training because it’s difficult for older members to learn new policies and procedures that typically accompany more training. Unions have a standard that more time in=better member, hence why in every union shop, a promotion always goes to a member with the most time, unless that position is not a union position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powders
Union members often get increases based on time. If two people have the same job the one with more time makes more in this situation. Promotions are not the same thing. I’m in a union. I’ve been promoted multiple times over people in my department with more time in. Your full of ****Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
I did recently move down a level. My union contract allows me to do so once without losing pay. I did take advantage.
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There are definitely issues with current police unions, that's why we need to break up our current system and restart fresh with new people. Not all unions are bad but corrupt people in a union definitely will make it go that way. Minneapolis has that issue with Bob Kroll for sure leading the way as president.
This is bull**** and you know it. I’ve posted videos of incidents where black suspects comply and they still get the **** beat out of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Police aren’t required to de-escalate and that’s the problem. They are all too ready to get that gun out and unload every bullet they’ve got.
But if someone in your union with more time at the same level as you wanted those promotions, you would not have got them. Seniority rules in unions. Your effort and production are meaningless.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing
They did, they didn’tQuote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
Happens like that all the time.
In fact guess who just hired two people. Both from within, with other candidates at the same level and it never came up? Me. the positions were only opened to internal candidates which did prevent a part time worker that I like from applying.
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It’s not the people of the union. It’s the concept of the union. We need to abolish public sector unions. They are abhorrent to our society.Quote:
Originally Posted by mngopher35
It often is the people of the union, you can't ignore that major aspect. Different individuals make different decisions, not all police unions act the same way for that reason across the country. It is definitely the biggest issue I have seen on a continual basis when people point out bad unions is that they have bad leadership/individuals making decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
The concept of unions is not a bad thing, the issue is when the unions do bad things via bad people and policy. I don't think every public sector union is bad, firefighters for example is something I have even heard positives depending on location and who is in charge.
Feel free to go in depth on how Postal and Firefighter unions are abhorrent in full though, I am curious the reasoning...
Which is the flaw in the data... As it has been shown that a black suspect is more likely to actually be arrested.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
Keep in mind black people are more likely to be arrested, numerous studies on bias show us that as well. So if police officers see black people as inherently more likely to be criminals and arrest them more frequently (but shoot them the same rate as whites) then bias is STILL the reason why black men are dying. You are trying to make the data tell your story and it just doesn't. Either bias leads police instigate more interactions with black people (leading to violence against black people), or bias leads the police and commit more violence against black people. Both are probably true to some extent.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyc77
I didn't call him a racist. I think he's more of a ***** *** ***** that is scared of black people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Nice rant though.
Even if he is right, he doesn’t know; he’s just parroting the party line.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing