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06-02-2020, 01:59 PM
spliff(TONE)

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I mentioned another type of protest that Kaepernick could have had that would have been less controversial.

I also brought up and said I support the amount of money that Kaepernick has donated, that nobody bothered to reply to.

this was far more effective than taking a knee during the national anthem.

https://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sh...7#post33495467

No one gives a **** about your stupid ideas.
06-02-2020, 02:00 PM
spliff(TONE)

I see the town censor has been hard at work deleting posts.
06-02-2020, 02:02 PM
joeyc77

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Originally Posted by nastynice

How does one dress like a thug?

Ok, so if someone accuses all white people of being racists, and treats them as such, using their phone and recording and calling them racist, your response would be that this white peoples fault? It's the fault of white racists?

Because I dont think I have EVER seen you take that stance on these boards.

After all, other races just dont make stereotypes out of thin air, right?

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How does a school shooter or a racist dress? A few months ago, you stated an employee of a theme park was racist based on a gesture they made in a pic which is known to have several other meanings. Was there any prejudice in that? I assume you apply this prejudice to real life as well.

Also, here you go again, with the word “ALL.” Do you think old black women are accused of being gang bangers? Do you think the Carltons of the worlds are accused of being gang bangers? If they are, that would be racist. I’ve said this several times now.

Furthermore, if you want to live your life as if ALL white people are KKK members, that’s fine. It’s an easy stereotype to break.
06-02-2020, 02:03 PM
spliff(TONE)

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Originally Posted by Zmaster52

I saw this a few days ago. Some of the funniest and most satisfying ****.

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It's from years ago and there seems to be zero proof that the man in question is an FBI agent. Though I'd love to be shown otherwise.
06-02-2020, 02:04 PM
spliff(TONE)

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Originally Posted by Scoots

He probably also generated donations to opposing positions.

Yeah, I heard he donated to the local KKK and Neo-Nazi foundations.
06-02-2020, 02:12 PM
Scoots

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Originally Posted by mngopher35

It became political via the leaders like POTUS and there are polls that show drastic differences in party lines on the issue. I know he always does stupid things so the question is why does the Republican base support him at such a high rate? Once again the answer is he is pushing their beliefs just like he was in the CK instance. He got his first jump in approval when making the birthirism claims against Obama. He ran on building a wall and banning Muslims from entering for a period of time. I am not saying Biden is some great candidate but you can't ignore the type of rhetoric and so on the POTUS uses and that he is fueling his support with it.

I think a big part of his ongoing support is more opposing his opponents rather than supporting his stupid ****. People on the other side of the aisle say stupid **** all the time too, but their stupid **** isn't as obviously stupid and the result is pushback from the people on the right. The "basket of deplorables" is a good example ... people in the center who support some right of center ideas/positions/laws are, in a defensive manner, pushed away from the Dems as a sort of whiplash defense of themselves. "The right doesn't listen to experts", "The right isn't educated", "The right are racist", "The right are all religious/religious nuts", these common things on left of center media (and left of center social media) are pushing moderates to support Trump with despite not liking him.
06-02-2020, 02:12 PM
Scoots

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Yeah, I heard he donated to the local KKK and Neo-Nazi foundations.

Not at all what I said. But okay.
06-02-2020, 02:13 PM
blams

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Originally Posted by Scoots

I think a big part of his ongoing support is more opposing his opponents rather than supporting his stupid ****. People on the other side of the aisle say stupid **** all the time too, but their stupid **** isn't as obviously stupid and the result is pushback from the people on the right. The "basket of deplorables" is a good example ... people in the center who support some right of center ideas/positions/laws are, in a defensive manner, pushed away from the Dems as a sort of whiplash defense of themselves. "The right doesn't listen to experts", "The right isn't educated", "The right are racist", "The right are all religious/religious nuts", these common things on left of center media (and left of center social media) are pushing moderates to support Trump with despite not liking him.

I mean at a certain point... history will reflect poorly on those who enabled Trump. He's that legendarily bad of a leader. The world has realized it. The US has ... to a certain extent.

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06-02-2020, 02:15 PM
SiteWolf

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Originally Posted by mngopher35

It became political via the leaders like POTUS and there are polls that show drastic differences in party lines on the issue. I know he always does stupid things so the question is why does the Republican base support him at such a high rate? Once again the answer is he is pushing their beliefs just like he was in the CK instance. He got his first jump in approval when making the birthirism claims against Obama. He ran on building a wall and banning Muslims from entering for a period of time. I am not saying Biden is some great candidate but you can't ignore the type of rhetoric and so on the POTUS uses and that he is fueling his support with it.

I've always been registered Republican, IF I've been registered. I mean, I'm a white Christian of Scandanavian descent born in farm country. I mean MLK was a conservative who may have been a registered Republican...but his views wouldn't align with today's Republican party nor do mine...but they don't align with the Dems either. To me the party system is broken.

But as far as the Republican support of the Donald, it's partly one of those historical 'run with the incumbent' things that's been around forever. I'd thought there would be one that would oppose him, but I think the party's thought must be...live or die with what we got...dunno

And to me, I look back at that one primary day where Biden went from like 5th to being the frontrunner and I think......how the hell does that happen w/o artificial help? Right now he's just sucking up all this anti-Trump stuff while Donald keeps helping add to it.
06-02-2020, 02:16 PM
Scoots

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Originally Posted by blams

I mean at a certain point... history will reflect poorly on those who enabled Trump. He's that legendarily bad of a leader. The world has realized it. The US has ... to a certain extent.

I think he's a failure as a President, but I don't think he's nearly as bad as Clinton or Bush 2. I judge Presidents on the laws they add to our lives and Clinton gave us mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, and other laws devastating to the poor, and Bush gave us the Patriot Act. Trump has essentially passed nothing.

Had the DNC not forced Hillary down people's throats Trump is never president. And if he wins again Biden is a significant reason.
06-02-2020, 02:23 PM
mngopher35

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Originally Posted by Scoots

I think a big part of his ongoing support is more opposing his opponents rather than supporting his stupid ****. People on the other side of the aisle say stupid **** all the time too, but their stupid **** isn't as obviously stupid and the result is pushback from the people on the right. The "basket of deplorables" is a good example ... people in the center who support some right of center ideas/positions/laws are, in a defensive manner, pushed away from the Dems as a sort of whiplash defense of themselves. "The right doesn't listen to experts", "The right isn't educated", "The right are racist", "The right are all religious/religious nuts", these common things on left of center media (and left of center social media) are pushing moderates to support Trump with despite not liking him.

I think it is a mix of both and again his support first jumped up after birthirism so it wasn't there before he started this type of rhetoric even. I agree people on both sides say dumb things, the issue you always have is trying to play both sides when one is clearly far worse and unless you get specific that is what Trump and his rhetoric is at the highest levels. One basket of deplorable comment isn't the same thing from someone who couldn't get enough support to even beat Trump on the other side, it's not comparable to all the ways he divides on a regular basis/rhetoric he uses. I disagree about the center as that is specifically who Clinton/Biden are representing and appealing to, the dems push away the progressives/left like Bernie so you are off base there too (it isn't left vs right, those aren't the sides being represented by dem/rep it is center/right).

Both sides do this but the levels/extremes Trump and Republicans are is insanely different than what we saw under Obama for example. Pretending that it is a both sides issue when Trump is a clear outlier only makes things worse as this becomes more acceptable on the other side. This is how politicians keep lowering the bar and you are playing into it with the both sides game despite context being drastically different.
06-02-2020, 02:24 PM
spliff(TONE)

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Originally Posted by Scoots

Not at all what I said. But okay.

Then explain yourself.
06-02-2020, 02:27 PM
blams

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Originally Posted by Scoots

I think he's a failure as a President, but I don't think he's nearly as bad as Clinton or Bush 2. I judge Presidents on the laws they add to our lives and Clinton gave us mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, and other laws devastating to the poor, and Bush gave us the Patriot Act. Trump has essentially passed nothing.

Had the DNC not forced Hillary down people's throats Trump is never president. And if he wins again Biden is a significant reason.

Oh man, I heavily disagree. Based on competence and sociopathy alone, he's the worst president in the history of the US. He's the laughing stock of the world. Reagan hurt the country a hell of a lot more than Clinton did. Trickle down economics, deregulating the economy, etc. Bush pushed the US into a war for drugs and oil.

But all 3 were far more competent than Trump.

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06-02-2020, 02:35 PM
nastynice

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Originally Posted by joeyc77

How does a school shooter or a racist dress? A few months ago, you stated an employee of a theme park was racist based on a gesture they made in a pic which is known to have several other meanings. Was there any prejudice in that? I assume you apply this prejudice to real life as well.

Also, here you go again, with the word “ALL.” Do you think old black women are accused of being gang bangers? Do you think the Carltons of the worlds are accused of being gang bangers? If they are, that would be racist. I’ve said this several times now.

Furthermore, if you want to live your life as if ALL white people are KKK members, that’s fine. It’s an easy stereotype to break.

I dont know how they dress, that's why I'm asking you. Can you describe what sort of dress you are referring to when referring to black people who dress like thugs?

No, a few months ago I entered a thread where a black family was being blasted for bringing up that gesture, and I argued that it is understandable that they would do so. Regardless, to your point, yes I am prejudice myself, towards whites, blacks, even other Pakis. What about it?

No, I dont think that ALL black people are accused of being gang bangers, but I do think that being black in of itself is a characteristic people stereotype. Let's take Trayvon Martin, if he were black and in a t shirt he wouldnt be approached, if he were white and in a hoodie he wouldnt be approached. But he was BLACK. And in a HOODIE. The fact that black is on this checklist of suspicion is what I am fighting here.

No, I dont have a stereotype that white people are kkk members, I have a stereotype that white people are racist. Kinda like you. It's a very mild but very real racism.

Hugepatsfan hit it on the head earlier, but yours is a much more dangerous form of racism because of the subtle manner in which it preaches hate. This methodology has been adopted by right wing media system and so to a degree by right wing media followers.

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06-02-2020, 02:39 PM
nastynice

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Originally Posted by blams

Oh man, I heavily disagree. Based on competence and sociopathy alone, he's the worst president in the history of the US. He's the laughing stock of the world. Reagan hurt the country a hell of a lot more than Clinton did. Trickle down economics, deregulating the economy, etc. Bush pushed the US into a war for drugs and oil.

But all 3 were far more competent than Trump.

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X2.

America is already on it's way down on the world stage. I think in 40 years when we look back, trump will have been one of the worst presidents ever. His incompetence cost us leverage with china (by getting throughly raped in the china trade wars), cost us leverage with the world (the whole world is wondering how the **** is America this partisan during a health emergency, starting from the president), cost of us trillions of dollars (reacting to the virus on January would have saved us this national shut down, the stimulus packages would have required MUCH less money).

The guy is a complete and utter failure. Yet I would still rather have him win presidency in 2020. That's a testament to the American system, lol.

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