This is why they kneel

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Originally Posted by The20thK

I wonder how many black lives have been saved by police presence?

No hard stat here but id guess way more than lives that have been unjustly taken.

Not an excuse for the taking of any life. But lets not act as if police haven't been an OVERWHELMING positive value in any neighborhood but especially black neighborhoods.

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Lol, no hard stat.

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Originally Posted by statquo

Reed I questioned why they are having a a black trans lives matter rally when they fall under black lives matter I'm not discriminating or whatever the trans-police think because you can't question anything to do with trans people. I just had a flashback of being in university where trans people are apparently the most oppressed people in the history of the world.

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They are discriminated against within their own community, so maybe they feel their interest isn't fully addressed by BLM. They are definitely treated way far better within the gay community where they were among the first leaders of the gay movement in the nineties.

Plus there has been a rash of trans being murder in these communities which has been ignored by the media.

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Originally Posted by The20thK

I wonder how many black lives have been saved by police presence?

No hard stat here but id guess way more than lives that have been unjustly taken.

Not an excuse for the taking of any life. But lets not act as if police haven't been an OVERWHELMING positive value in any neighborhood but especially black neighborhoods.

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the fact that the overwhelming majority of airline flights occur without incident does nothing to reduce the amount of safety precautions that should be taken............and there damn well BETTER be an overwhelming majority of police/black interactions that have positive results....still does nothing to reduce the changes necessary to work towards reducing the negative interactions

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Originally Posted by valade16

Was it? They already had all of this guys information. They could have pursued him or even just let him go and picked him up at his house the next day. I know there is this burning desire to catch them right then and there, but why? We’re they afraid this man was gonna go tase some random people? He couldn’t even drive drunk anymore because they had his vehicle.

They shot him in the back. To me this comes down to the institutional procedures they teach. Their policy shouldn’t be shoot a dude who poses minimal risk to anyone dead because they couldn’t subdue him at the scene.

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he was able to assault the police, so why couldn't he use that taser on someone else?

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Originally Posted by valade16

A lot of people here don’t seem to know a lot about firearms and tasers. Do you know how hard it is to hit a target while you’re running, let alone shooting behind you as you’re running? Do you know most tasers aren’t simply pull the trigger to fire?

The chances of a drunk man being able to successful prime and fire a taser and actually hit someone aiming behind them while on the run is practically 0. Like win the lottery low.

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do you know how hard it is to hit a target with a gun while that target is running. that is why police are trained to shoot for the biggest mass, and not for the leg like Joe Biden suggested.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/biden-...-than-to-kill/

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Biden: Officers should train to shoot attackers ‘in the leg instead of the heart’

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so what was a better alternative? I don't think anyone that steals a police taser should just be allowed to leave.
I'm open to ideas.
just chase Brooks until he tires himself out?
1 officer tackle him while the another regains the taser?
wouldn't 1 of the other officers also have a taser that they could have used? I don't know, was that tried?

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Originally Posted by benny01

But really, you let the guy run off, get a warrant out, let him sleep it off, talk to a lawyer, and turn himself in the next day. Otherwise you put a warrant out and pick him up the next time you run into him so that he can do his 30 days and pay his 5 grand in fines. You dont shoot him while hes trying to flee.

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The problem is that these cops to often are so over-aggressive in their policing that they often escalate a situation to a life or death incident when it doesn't have to be. It is a primal instinct to struggle if one is being choked to death, not a sign they are resisting arrest,ie. One kid got shot for moving to fast to a police order to get his registration papers out. He was just scared and wish to comply as quickly as possible.

The total opposite of how European policing is done. But we are exceptional so we do things differently. That is the American way. You can hear it in Trump's spew of dominating the streets and suggesting the police treat their arrestees roughly.

multiple factors related to this story..

https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...volving-tasers

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More black people than white die in police encounters involving tasers: report

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More black people than white die in police encounters involving tasers: report

People killed by police use of Tasers are disproportionately African American, a Reuters analysis of fatalities through 2018 found.

The news service analyzed 1,081 cases in which people died after police shocked them with a Taser, the majority occurring after 2000, when the weapon came into widespread usage by police departments. The analysis found that the plurality of deaths — at least 32 percent — were African American, compared to at least 29 percent white. African Americans comprise about 14 percent of the U.S. population.

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not a big difference with 32% black and 29% white.

how many of these incidents black or white was the use of taser justified. if it was justified then the racial difference doesn't matter.

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1,081 cases in which people died after police shocked them with a Taser,

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if this many people are dying because of a taser, then it can't be argued that a taser is not deadly.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

do you know how hard it is to hit a target with a gun while that target is running. that is why police are trained to shoot for the biggest mass, and not for the leg like Joe Biden suggested.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/biden-...-than-to-kill/


so what was a better alternative? I don't think anyone that steals a police taser should just be allowed to leave.
I'm open to ideas.
just chase Brooks until he tires himself out?
1 officer tackle him while the another regains the taser?
wouldn't 1 of the other officers also have a taser that they could have used? I don't know, was that tried?

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Do what they can to catch him. Not shoot. It isnt about "allowing " someone to leave. It happens.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

he was able to assault the police, so why couldn't he use that taser on someone else?

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Because the taser isn't reuseable without a new CO2 cartridge inserted. This isn't an off the shelf replacement. Bogus argument. No need to shoot in back and a prime example of why police shouldn't be called for every issue. Had Wendy's called a tow truck rather than the police Brooks would still be alive

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Originally Posted by WES445

The problem is that these cops to often are so over-aggressive in their policing that they often escalate a situation to a life or death incident when it doesn't have to be. It is a primal instinct to struggle if one is being choked to death, not a sign they are resisting arrest,ie. One kid got shot for moving to fast to a police order to get his registration papers out. He was just scared and wish to comply as quickly as possible.

The total opposite of how European policing is done. But we are exceptional so we do things differently. That is the American way. You can hear it in Trump's spew of dominating the streets and suggesting the police treat their arrestees roughly.

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Yep, it's all evident in this thread. I can't believe how skewed people views are about the role of police.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

multiple factors related to this story..

https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...volving-tasers





not a big difference with 32% black and 29% white.

how many of these incidents black or white was the use of taser justified. if it was justified then the racial difference doesn't matter.




if this many people are dying because of a taser, then it can't be argued that a taser is not deadly.

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So when police repeatedly and needlessly use their tasers on people they are trying to kill them? Thanks special

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Originally Posted by blams

Do what they can to catch him. Not shoot. It isnt about "allowing " someone to leave. It happens.

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allowing him to leave is what some have suggested should have happened, saying they have his address. as if Brooks was simply going to go home apparently.

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Originally Posted by zookman65

Because the taser isn't reuseable without a new CO2 cartridge inserted. This isn't an off the shelf replacement. Bogus argument. No need to shoot in back and a prime example of why police shouldn't be called for every issue. Had Wendy's called a tow truck rather than the police Brooks would still be alive

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the taser Brooks stole had already been used? can you find that information?

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Originally Posted by benny01

So when police repeatedly and needlessly use their tasers on people they are trying to kill them? Thanks special

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I don't know how you got that from what I posted.

the use of a taser is not intended to kill, but clearly it is possible. this destroys the argument that a taser is not deadly which is what people have used in defense of Brooks' action of pointing the taser at police.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I don't know how you got that from what I posted.

the use of a taser is not intended to kill, but clearly it is possible. this destroys the argument that a taser is not deadly which is what people have used in defense of Brooks' action of pointing the taser at police.

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I got it from what you posted because it is what you said. You just destroyed the argument for thousands upon thousands of brutality cases. Also, the police disagree with you.