You saying another person is grumpy is the funniest thing I’ve read on here in a long timeQuote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
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You saying another person is grumpy is the funniest thing I’ve read on here in a long timeQuote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
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That's good. You seem like you could really use some laughter in your life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Sweden is about to declare victory over the virus.
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/i...?itok=POkmuMnm
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Meaning what, everyone's been exposed and they can now fully reopen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
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Well you don’t declare victory against a virus, that’s just silly. It’s out there and it will return.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
That said Sweden and Denmark definitely make a case for taking the herd immunity approach.
But there are also countries in Asia who have been through these outbreaks before (SARS MERS, etc) and went with the mask and lockdown approach and they also are in great shape.
There’s a lot we still don’t know and it’ll be interesting to see which approach is better or if both are effective.
But here’s what we know DOESNT work. A “leader” who contradicts health officials because he’s more interested in personal image and gain than public safety. A leader who says “leave it up to the states” rather than huddling with disease experts and issuing a nationwide plan, whether its herd immunity or mask mandates and lockdown. A leader who openly says he takes no accountability for his actions.
That created a mess. A mess that you’re about to vote for again just because he wears a red tie and not a blue one.
For anyone looking for more than a graph, PBS Newshour had a good piece on this:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/de...-did-they-fare
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But I only want to know the graph part.Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
Ultimately, it seems to have come down to whether you are willing to accept what amounts to passive euthanasia in hopes (no hard science here yet) that the overall population will be that much stronger.Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
Nietzsche would approve (I think).
$48K a case?Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
what's $48k a case? if that's from that study, it's oddly extrapolated as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by brett05
We ARE taking the hard immunity approach, what else are we doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
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Ha nihilism may be extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crovash
No tactic to fight this virus results in no deaths. And with the herd immunity approach you’re still quarantining more vulnerable groups.
The lockdown approach is clearly not without its own destruction of life. No jobs mean no coverage and there are cases of people just sitting at home and dying of the virus instead of risking bankrupting medical bills for an ER visit. Evictions, families without food, etc etc
The problem is politics and parties have jumped in to leverage this virus in an election year. They state everything as black v white so we all fall back into teams and fight with each other, donate to a side and vote for them.
The reality is there’s likely no “right” method to handling this. Just different ways and different sacrifices. Lots to learn.
But again, what we do know is that you need responsible leadership who defers tactics to leading infectious disease organizations and scientists to create a clear plan. Not a scientifically illiterate orangutan who openly contradicts experts and then just lets states handle it in their own myriad of ways.
Yeah...250K folks 12 billion dollars. I believe that's 48K a case. Why does that seem,way, way, way off?Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf