I'm still not sure how we are going to defeat COVID if we don't have one family member of the next president on the Task Force. Maybe we could have Jill Biden join it?
I'm still not sure how we are going to defeat COVID if we don't have one family member of the next president on the Task Force. Maybe we could have Jill Biden join it?
Flattening the curve will not occur unless and until we have a serviceable vaccine, which it appears we have today. We need to stop all of the rhetoric coming from an eastern state governor and allow the vaccine to be approved by the FDA. We need to stop all of the rhetoric from a west coast senator who may become the vice president and allow the vaccine to be released for everyone to utilize.
This vaccine has been shown to be effective and safe. I will take it when and if it is recommended to me.
And by the way, what is Jill Biden's PHD in?
How true. think of the chances to catch cancer in its early stages that are being missed because our hospitals are overburden by this virus.Quote:
Originally Posted by benny01
what do you know or think of the anti-body drug that likely comes out sooner? think it worthwhile to look to get?Quote:
Originally Posted by catman
This statement makes no sense. We significantly flattened the curve by shutting down in march April. There was no vaccine available.Quote:
Originally Posted by catman
Flattening the curve means to stop exponential growth (spread), this can and has been accomplished numerous ways.
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Yeah he's confusing flattening the curve with functionally eliminating new cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
With his occupation, one could assume he's actually purposely spreading misinformation (as opposed to being confused).
we flattened the curve when the population was willing to accept a shutdown
think they're willing to accept another one?
This is a good point and why I think another shutdown will ultimately be fruitless. There are too many people that will simply disobey and ignore any such measures.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Is this a rhetorical question?Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Shutting down isn't the only way to flatten the curve.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
The easiest and most effective way is to put mask mandates in place.
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Too bad collectively we're a nation dumber than rocks who had to turn masks into some culture war BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
It was back then, too...but still, far Far FAR too many people (not all of 'em even Trumpublicans despite what people think) view masks as unnecessary/unwhatever else. I have a coworker who starts talking about how many particles per thousand of the virus is enough to infect someone and how many get through a mask, etc etc....and that wearing a mask is a 'walk of shame'...and he's one of the most left people I knowQuote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
The biggest town in my county has had a mandate for a couple months, and the spread continues....which allowed the biggest city in the state to decide again last night to vote down a mask mandate. They still think people will 'do the right thing' without a mandate....because that has worked so well so far.
Yea, its wierd, honestly a lot of people just legitimately don't comprehend what's going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
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Half of this country would say it was political if Biden told us to close our mouths or tilt our head down in a rain storm to keep us from drowning.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManRam
Ya know, you guys can dislike all those people who voted for Trump and have no idea how they could stand by him now........but it's ridiculous to make it sound like their average intelligence is lower than yours.....oh that's right, dbroncslefty thinks Christians are ignorant in the first place....
Can you provide me any empirical evidence that they aren't? Why are masks being made a political statement? It's not liberals or democrats arguing they shouldn't be worn and are some symbol of tyranny.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Nah it’s more than a fair assumption. You have to be severely challenged to support a transparently idiotic bigoted grifter who has given us definitive proof that he is worthless, cruel, and unqualified for even the lowest political position on a daily basis for four years. There is no excuse for supporting him other than blind zealotry or simply not having control of your brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Oh please, I realize it's mostly Trumpublicans, but I know plenty of Democrats around here and elsewhere that fight masks, too...............but the real point is, you're equating that difference in mindset as a lack of intelligence just like your mindset that because someone believes in God they lack common sense and logical thinking skillsQuote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
I also agree that voting for Donald Trump is a sign of a lack of intelligence. You are either stupid or cruel if you supported him
I'll have to tell my surgeon friend in Oregon and my federal employee with high DoD security brother I don't know how they ever earned their advanced degrees, then...because PSD leftys have spokenQuote:
Originally Posted by rhino17
Where on earth do you see Democrats fighting masks? I haven't seen that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Not really on topic but has your surgeon friend in Oregon said anything about that state going Portugal? Saw that they voted to decriminalize all drugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
I’m in Canada, so not Democrats, but have run into plenty of left leaning people saying the same thing. It’s definitely more prominent on the right but it’s not just a straight line down the middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
I actually haven't talked to her or her husband in a couple months...and then it was about the problems they were still battling after having Covid in April or May.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bramaca
I know a number of them locally and a large percentage of the local college students that are Dems...and rarely wear them. And I have brothers in 2 other states that say the same. Again, I know it's more prevelent for a Trumper, but it's not an exclusive.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
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Originally Posted by SiteWolf
I suppose it's theoretically possible. But I have not seen anyone resisting the masks in my state. I've only seen it amongst one side.
lol @ 'theoretically possible'
of course it's possible...not only possible, but true
Of course it's possible. There are selfish, short-sighted people on both sides of the aisle.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
Love that Biden added Michael Osterholm to his COVID team. That guy is one of the best minds in infectious disease and has a great podcast that gives some of the best info on this whole mess.
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I feel like with trump it's an emotional appeal. I feel the right wing propaganda machine is much more set in emotional appeal than left wing, that's why there's such a disconnect between both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Most people I talk to that say pro trump, really they are like **** the system, burn it down.
I'm like you idiots, Trump is pure corporate, wtf!!
But its def an emotional appeal, and a VERY powerful one.
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How is it possible your surgeon friend went through med school and still willing to vote for a man who rolled out the complete failure of a corona response we are now dealing with.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
Did he not take epidemiology?
Ask him. Ask him psd wants to know what the ****, man.
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Well I haven’t seen it so I will need to take your word for it. Most people I know and see are wearing their masks. But maybe it’s different in a state that has for some reason chosen not to have a mask mandate.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
I said stupid OR cruelQuote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
I'm not a Democrat. I have no need to spread disinformation about Covid.Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
Enough snarky remarks though. We will not flatten the curve substantially without either closing the economy down, as we did in March of 2020 or we have a serviceable vaccine. That will be the only thing that allows us to get back to any sort of normalcy in our country.
Closing the country down is unacceptable in the long run. The only thing that happens is the government goes broke and people are limited as to the choices they have for basic products. A serviceable vaccine will allow us to get back to pre-Covid normals, or at least get close.
As to the styles of vaccines, and there are many, I don't have the expertise to make any comments on this. I recommend reading the news that comes from Lancet, Journal of American Medical Association (JAMA) or the major universities -- NYU, Johns Hopkins, and the major medical centers -- Mayo etal.
Now for some general suggestions that you have heard elsewhere, but I will repeat them to be sure they are understood.
1. Wear a mask when you are in public. If you are walking your dog or exercising in a park with no one else around you, you should be OK. If you are in a store or taking public transportation, wear one.
2. Wash your hands. Hand sanitizers with at least 60% alcohol are very effective in killing Covid. Washing with soap and water is also effective.
3. Stay out of large crowds.
Doctors can absolutely lack intelligence. It is less common at that level of education but it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
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Speaking of spreading disinformation, still think the Covid deaths ar evening exaggerated and how many do you think we’re at now?Quote:
Originally Posted by catman
What a lame reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by catman
Yet we blame Trump for the start of the virus and him not doing more back in Feb/March?Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
At least be consistent
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You are so lost on this topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Many leaders botched their pandemic response early on. Big difference with Trump compared to many others is that he refused to learn from his early mistakes and instead, generally doubled down on his idiotic approach to this virus. It's one thing to make a mistake, it's another much worse thing to not learn from your mistakes. It'd be much easier to cut Trump a little slack here if he wasn't guilty of the latter.
What are you having trouble following here, Brewers?