This is America (California to be specific, if you can believe it). :flag:
https://youtu.be/8kkBseVTUow
This is America (California to be specific, if you can believe it). :flag:
https://youtu.be/8kkBseVTUow
Your take on this is really dumb. The amount of stress these doctors are facing are unlike anything we have ever seen or witnessed before. I can't imagine the heartache it is seeing all these people come in and not being able to help several of them, and not even allowing their families to see them and be with them as they pass away.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
This kind of thing happens a lot in the veterinarian field as well. Doctors and techs commit suicide because they crack from all the stress and grief from dealing with animals they can't save and have to put down. This is no different.
Where did you do your pre-med and where did you go to med school? What was your MCAT score, where were you planning on doing your residency and what field did you graduate in?Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
A deadly virus that ends any elderly povertyQuote:
Originally Posted by Sluggo1
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I’m pretty sure he said he was a nurse or some medical support in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
That dude doesn’t have what it takes to be a doctor (if not already clear).
Oh that's crystal clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by debo
He said he finished med school. Nobody that finishes med school becomes a nurse unless they are completely inept at being a doctor, and if they are that inept, they don't finish med school.
I just got an infraction for calling an ***hole an ***hole (not an idiot, not a moron...nothing relating to their mentality), so I honestly don't know how to describe anything about him at this point without getting infracted.
lol, awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
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Oh man, this is priceless..Quote:
Originally Posted by debo
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And spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
That's what I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
Holy **** the stupidity batman!Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
Honestly how long do we stay shut down? Because it's gonna be there at the end of the next month and then the month after that. We were supposed to stay shut down to avoid overwhelming the hospitals and we did. The ship in NY treated like 130 people and then set sail.
Yep. Those are some intellectually slow human beings that have brain alterations that make them goofy fellas. Holy golly. What are those nice but not very gifted people thinking? Maybe they are just misunderstood great people with slow but not bad intellect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick Of It All
lol, god bless america!Quote:
Originally Posted by fingerbang
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It was all for ****ing show.Quote:
Originally Posted by fingerbang
A lot of what’s going on now - from wearing masks to the ship to whatever else is mostly IMO a means to demonstrate the severity of the situation rather than to actually make a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick Of It All
I mean, it is to make a difference but I think people wearing masks is mostly to scare the irresponsible people into wearing them. I could be wrong, though. No real right answer there.
I think masks, social distancing and all of that is important but the fact is, so many people are stupid that these things need to become mandatory. Idk.
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You don’t.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
Even if you did, you couldn’t handle it - self-admittedly - and started a handyman business that can’t operate because your state is shut down.
And fortunately, passing med school - if in some whacked out reality where you did - doesn’t mean you’re smart necessarily. It means you’re disciplined and/or rich.
There's a back story to why I answered the way I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick Of It All
I don't think anything in that video is for show. People are weird, people are sick of being told what to do and people with a brain in their skull are tired of watching our (and the world's) economy collapse. Those factors combined is why we're seeing this revolt.
Honestly, Im getting a bit suspicious about these measures and rightfully so. It was a joke several weeks ago but at this stage, the cure is worse than the disease.
Honest question: Does anyone in here know a single person close to you that has either contracted covid, and if so did they pass?
I know shitloads of people coast to coast. Not a single person that I know has been effected by covid outside of economical detriment.
Yes and yesQuote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
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As per usual, zero answers when pressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
So this whole thing isn't that big of a deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick Of It All
But not on this scale I would reckon. This is a whole new environment. How many death did she see, how many grieving families she had to console, how many patients did she walk away from to another who has a better chance to survive? So many life and death choices and you still come up snake eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.
Hospitals in Italy were completely overwhelmed so we took precaution when we saw that. Unfortunately we never got a good idea of what we were dealing with until the virus broke outside of China because not only did the fail to contain it they bs'd the rest of the world. Turned out that we were ultimately way better prepared than countries like Italy and Spain.
Yes, and Yes No relatives so far thank god. Hey, why don't you drag your arse to the south side of Chicago and talk about your theory? Go volunteer at a hospital.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
In honesty, you probably know personally under fifty people, and you are about to build a conspiracy theory on that?
I do. For background I grew up in Bergen Co NJ (the most effected co in NJ- right across the GWB and live in central Jersey) My aunt passed (she was from NY and was in her 80s). Wife’s knows someone from work whose husband died. A cousin had it and was on a respirator but got better (upstate NY). two cousins had it and got over it fine- one is a health care provider (Bergen Co). My college housemate (central jersey) had it pretty sure (never tested) her fever got up to 103, she was sick as **** but it broke and she never had to be hospitalized or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
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Agreed. While we could have handled it better I think the US still has a great infrastructure and was able to deal with it pretty effectively when **** started to go sideways. I don’t know if we are being over cautious or if **** would start to break again if we loosen up to soon. I do think our wealth and infrastructure should allow us to be a little bit cautious.Quote:
Originally Posted by fingerbang
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I know three.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
One never showed symptoms but was tested due to profession.
The second was tested due to profession and had symptoms (fever, respiratory issues, etc.)
The third was tested when in the hospital for respiratory issues and died.
I have a friend who is likely brain dead in a coma, and 2 other friends (nurse and a doctor who are on ventilators) so yeah I think these yahoos driving around like jackasses can all take a long walk off a short pier.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
Hes doing a study that he's gonna present at his Thanksgiving doctor conference.
Two here, both thankfully and finally on the upswing.
Yeah medical school is more about running the gauntlet and staying on task and brute force studying than being smart... Obviously those traits often come with smarts... and smarts make all those things easier. But it's not the end all. Honestly some of the smartest people don't make good clinicians because a good clinician needs to question themself... they need to believe they can be wrong (This is one of the reasons why I went the research tract instead of a clinical one... wakka wakka wakka... but seriously I'm too over confident to be a clinician).Quote:
Originally Posted by debo
Even in the world of PhDs it doesn't mean you are necessarily smart writ large... it means you are very smart in one thing.
I have a buddy from HS who is a doctor and is exactly why I commented. He was a fine student in HS - not exceptional, but top 1/3 probably. He went to an Ok school for undergrad and got Ok marks. He got accepted into a mediocre medicine program and, similarly, was OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by flips333
None of that is to disparage doctors by any means - I sure as **** couldn’t go a doctoral route for anything because of my personality - but smartness isn’t a defining factor for our physicians. It changed my view of healthcare dramatically when I realized that.
MD is just resilience.Quote:
Originally Posted by flips333
PhD you gotta legitimately be smart. I got a cousin who is smart. He develops algorithms to create economic prediction models.
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smartness isn't a defining factor for anything in my opinion. It's also not excluded from anything. I've known homeless heroin users who are smarter than most everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by debo
No... you have to be smart in ONE thing... That doesn't make you smart. I'm surrounded by PhDs... trust me.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
Why? What requires being smart in medicine in a clinical setting? Research, ok, but what do you have to be smart for in clinical? Everything is easy. We know how to diagnose and treat damn near everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by debo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-QQuote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
But seriously, the amount of individual variability in how diseases present themselves alone requires intelligence to sift through.
Yea, I guess phd could be overall dumb, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by flips333
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You have no idea what you are talking about. The US was largely unprepared, yes, as were some countries in the EU like Italy and Spain.Quote:
Originally Posted by fingerbang
It’s just lucky maybe for some that you live where you live. Others are not so lucky, as I have consistently demonstrated with actual numbers.
Bottom line: we are NOT all in the same boat in this country. No ****ing way. We are barely in the same storm.
Well, there you have it. I wonder who else applied for one — the Astros maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing
Let’s also not forget that you implied you were almost a physician because you went to med school which is how we got on the entire off-topic convo here.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice