COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

Aka barely at all, yet brimming with undeserved confidence?

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Yup, that's why all the stuff they finally started implementing a month ago is what I already said in February.

Proof is in the pudding, Chuck.

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Originally Posted by mike_noodles

Yeah, cutting off the means of actually surviving is ridiculous. It's really not that hard to understand. But hey, you put forth the idea.

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No, I'm laughing because you are saying people not having credit cards is why we can't ban it! [emoji23][emoji23]



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Originally Posted by nastynice

So basically "my social needs" can be achieved with proper safety measures in place, just like any other social need.

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Right...

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That’s because of the fact that churchgoers are gathered together in one place, and engaged in activities like singing together, which has been shown to be extra conducive to spreading the coronavirus. In fact, a new study has reaffirmed that visiting a house of worship is actually one of the riskiest things you can do right now during the pandemic.

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https://bgr.com/2020/09/20/coronavir...ovid-19-study/

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Originally Posted by nastynice

So basically "my social needs" can be achieved with proper safety measures in place, just like any other social need.

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Except that you have repeatedly been asking for special treatment and ignoring obvious differences when convenient. In fact when I outlined this you stated they should be treated like schools which definitely receive special treatment compared to other businesses given the public funding and need in society for education.

Other people have mentioned sporting events or concerts or other large group activities that others may have in their social needs but you ignore it. Just like you haven't provided any examples of a random store being a super spreader while it took 2 seconds to find a study on church spread in that manner.

You want your social needs favored over everyone else's is the issue, you want special standards that aren't based on the health risks/necessity of what is being discussed.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

I have no real answer because your question is stupid. A major element of religion and introspective growth is gathering with like minded individuals and having services. Yet you keep making mindless posts like this.

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You have no real answer because you know your arguments are getting obliterated. Then again, maybe you're oblivious to the fact that your arguments are getting obliterated; seems to kinda be your thing.

If every other organization is getting together via Zoom meetings and such, why is this such an impossible solution for churchgoers? Sounds like you expect special privileges despite continuously claiming otherwise.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

No, I'm laughing because you are saying people not having credit cards is why we can't ban it! [emoji23][emoji23]



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No, I was giving an obvious answer to why we can't ban it. Again, you are the one who put forth the idea. You're essentially arguing with yourself.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

So you think that only one line in a 33 page document is pertinent? Absolutely hilarious if so. Even funnier, is that both that one line and everything else I read in the first ten pages of that document go completely against your incessant claims that churches are being held to a different (and unfair) standard than other non-essential businesses. A claim that you very tellingly continue to refuse bolstering with any sort of evidence.

It's as if people like you just turn your brain off and instantly, regardless of basic logic, defend the church's stance simply because you are religious and enjoy attending church. With this seemingly the case, there probably isn't much need to continue on with this conversation.

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lmao! Of COURSE that line was pertinent, given it stated what Cuomo was putting in for restrictions on religious services and was the basis for my saying equal but not extra restrictions for churches is fine

there hasn't been much reason to continue this conversation for like 2 pages now since half the time we weren't really saying anything different, you just kept saying I was suggesting something else.

I'm typing in English, right?

there does this help? :p

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Originally Posted by nastynice

Exactly.

They are regulated, and as me and sitewolf have been saying, if churches are regulated then they should.stay open.



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My goodness, dude. You don't even know what you or others are arguing. Please try to keep up.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

lol, ur telling me..

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Correct, I am. You do this **** quite often and are not fooling anyone but yourself. At least you're not denying my claim, which is a start.

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Originally Posted by mike_noodles

Right...



https://bgr.com/2020/09/20/coronavir...ovid-19-study/

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lol, omg..



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Originally Posted by mngopher35

Except that you have repeatedly been asking for special treatment and ignoring obvious differences when convenient. In fact when I outlined this you stated they should be treated like schools which definitely receive special treatment compared to other businesses given the public funding and need in society for education.

Other people have mentioned sporting events or concerts or other large group activities that others may have in their social needs but you ignore it. Just like you haven't provided any examples of a random store being a super spreader while it took 2 seconds to find a study on church spread in that manner.

You want your social needs favored over everyone else's is the issue, you want special standards that aren't based on the health risks/necessity of what is being discussed.

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Ok, well.sports and movie theaters and other places have been opening in diff places. Again, it's all about if they are able to achieve doing so safely. I watched people in the crowd at baseball games. They allowed it.

Again, science doesn't care about your opinion or your ignorance. Virus is something that physically spreads, if we can mitigate spread we are ok, if we can't we aren't.

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Originally Posted by mike_noodles

No, I was giving an obvious answer to why we can't ban it. Again, you are the one who put forth the idea. You're essentially arguing with yourself.

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I know, your obvious answer is a joke. Credit cards aren't the reason we don't ban grocery stores. The effect on our daily living is.

Follow my argument a little closer..

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Originally Posted by mngopher35

Except that you have repeatedly been asking for special treatment and ignoring obvious differences when convenient. In fact when I outlined this you stated they should be treated like schools which definitely receive special treatment compared to other businesses given the public funding and need in society for education.

Other people have mentioned sporting events or concerts or other large group activities that others may have in their social needs but you ignore it. Just like you haven't provided any examples of a random store being a super spreader while it took 2 seconds to find a study on church spread in that manner.

You want your social needs favored over everyone else's is the issue, you want special standards that aren't based on the health risks/necessity of what is being discussed.

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So, maybe I've misread, but how many people are currently being allowed in NY bars and restaurants BEFORE 10pm now? Because I thought I read the new restrictions apply from 10pm to 5am.

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Originally Posted by nastynice

I know, your obvious answer is a joke. Credit cards aren't the reason we don't ban grocery stores. The effect on our daily living is.

Follow my argument a little closer..

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Again, you're actually arguing with yourself, I don't need to follow any closer. It's a task, believe me.

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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

maybe you're oblivious to the fact that your arguments are getting obliterated;

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I'm the Paki, cuzzo. Don't forget that.

You need to read slower. If pakis can learn english, Americans definitely can.

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