Surfers are not a big problem and they had some of the lowest infection rates in a country where a bunch of states are opening back up. It was a strange move by Newsom, and he's now said CA is "days not weeks" from opening back up. So it seems like a significant mistake by Newsom to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
Not that people ignoring some basic precautions is a good idea.
should be interesting where this goes..
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-int...ed-11588260228
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In Rare Move, U.S. Intelligence Agencies Confirm Investigating if Coronavirus Emerged From Lab Accident
How do you open a beach for surfers only though? I'm all for keeping the beaches shut down; especially if people can't show a little self control and refrain from packing these beaches in droves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoots
Pretty sure that when Newsom said that CA is "days not weeks" from opening back up, he's referring to starting to gradually open. I could be wrong but I don't think there is a concrete plan in place to go back from continuing the shelter in place orders until the end of May. Though I know they are loosening the restrictions starting Monday.
Let’s say it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
How does that change any of the response state-side aside from highlighting that dismantling a pandemic response team because they can be assembled when needed like the ****ing Avengers is dumb?
Here in WA they extended the stay at home through 5/31 but looks like they have a decent phase back approach with construction and some outdoor spaces opening back up and then adding. Some businesses.
It’s the best approach given the second waves we saw in China, South Korea, etc and makes it easier to extend a particular phase or roll back in the event numbers climb again.
My company has been amazing and supportive through this and based on how slow they’re rolling back I’d be surprised if I was back in office by August. Though my job can definitely be done remotely indefinitely and others can’t.
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Why the F do we need 17 intelligence agencies?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecialFNK
Don't close it and then you don't have to open it. They literally closed the beach when much of the country was opening up. To close the beach they have to have people there enforcing it, those people could have instead enforced distancing or maximum number of people on the beach. It would have been much easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
And yes days-not-weeks is the start of the process, but last week it was extended as a full shelter until June and now he's walking that back.
1 to do work, 16 others to lay and cut red tape.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoots
It a bit old now but if you haven’t seen it frontline had an episode called the two Washington’s that compares the response of Washington DC and that of Washington state. I found it pretty interesting. Seeing as it focuses on your state you might enjoy itQuote:
Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men
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I’m sure if we had one it would have divisions and reasonable so. Why don’t you look before acting all incredulous?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoots
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What's easier isn't always what is best. I'd rather the government not give in to a bunch of selfish crybabies but hey, that's just me. Also, I believe these beaches have actually gone from open to closed to open (as a trial run with restrictions) to closed again since mid-March.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoots
I'm not sure if that timeline and/or cause & effect you are mentioning is what actually happened. First of all, the walking it back part only applies to six Bay Area counties and one Bay Area city (so it wouldn't apply to these southern California beaches). Secondly, I think the plan was to loosen up some of the restrictions come Monday if certain pandemic related benchmarks were cleared.Quote:
And yes days-not-weeks is the start of the process, but last week it was extended as a full shelter until June and now he's walking that back.
Maybe I'm a little off on some of these details but I live in California and have been paying close attention to what they are doing with these restrictions.
I have looked and there is a lot of overlap. The existence of something doesn't make it needed ... logic like that is how we got so many in the first place. And on 9/11 we found out they don't talk to each other well enough so we added yet another agency.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing
Nm
I don’t know a lot about these agencies eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Scoots
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They were not a problem until the beach was closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
So you think pot should be illegal? Why give in to a bunch of selfish crybabies?
We should still be a British colony because why give in to a bunch of selfish crybabies?
The national speed limit should still be 55mph because why give in to a bunch of selfish crybabies?
and on and on and on
Just because you don't agree doesn't mean they are fully wrong. Just because the government said so doesn't mean the government is right.