COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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Originally Posted by ewing

Why do you see Pelosi as “self serving” here?


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She is trying to pust through a $3 trillion (do you have any idea as to how much $$$ that actually is???) Coronavirus relief loaded with crap to appear to the poor and minorities that have nothing to do with the virus or are just plain dumb…and she knows this. She is buying votes with your money.

addl unemployment comp pretty much pays people to not go back to work. Free money…who would not vote for that????

Eliminating state and local tax deduction caps which will effectively tax the rich and middle class

Payments to illegals, non-deportatiom of illegals

Letting prisoners loose

Bail out the post office

And on and on.

She is buying and securing votes.

Yet, she has done nothing for the homeless in her district or to help control out of sight state spending in CA.

People talk about Trump being power hungry…he has nothing on this botoxed chick. No one in DC is more power hungry that her. 80 years old and a millionaire and she will never retire. She's Robert Byrd with a rack.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Define “best”.

Selling the most. Just like what is best in my industry. In any industry. Have you ever dealt with a sales person??? They're tryig to sell you something.



I take it Pelosi would be one of your “few exceptions”? How about, say, McConnell?

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No one comes close to Pelosi.

Several of the country’s biggest employers have raised the wages of their essential workers through so-called hero pay [sic] some extra money on top of normal hourly salaries.

Now they plan to end those programs. For example, Amazon warehouse workers will lose their extra $2 an hour at the end of this month. Meanwhile, an Amazon warehouse in Hazle Township, Pa. had the company’s worst virus outbreak, apparently after “missing early opportunities to protect workers.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/t...7660ea25319dc3

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

No one comes close to Pelosi.

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Typical deflection. I did not ask for comparisons. I asked very specifically whether you believed McConnell was an exception as per your statement.

And again, please define best in terms of what a lobbyist’s objective is for his or her employer.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Several of the country’s biggest employers have raised the wages of their essential workers through so-called hero pay [sic] some extra money on top of normal hourly salaries.

Now they plan to end those programs. For example, Amazon warehouse workers will lose their extra $2 an hour at the end of this month. Meanwhile, an Amazon warehouse in Hazle Township, Pa. had the company’s worst virus outbreak, apparently after “missing early opportunities to protect workers.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/t...7660ea25319dc3

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First para……so they were generous and now they are meanies???? At least they still have jobs.

Second para…what do you think Amazon should have done???? If Amazon stopped all their deliveries, people would complain about that.

This virus is an event unprecedented in our time. No one knows what to do. No one has any answers.If you want to blame Trump…fine. Then tell us what BO would have done. Or Hilly. Or Joe B in a few months (actually Pelosi until Joe B steps down ow croaks and then Kamala).

It seems like the best solution is to ride it out until some treatment or vaccine pops up…which may never happen. Or it goes away … not likely. Then we just live with it.

I do notice that all the ones with what they think are the best ideas always seem to be people with guaranteed incomes. At lot easier to speak from that perspective. Easy to say stay at home when you are making top dollar with no chance of losing it. Easy to say stay off the beaches, parks and golf courses when your life is pretty cushy and you still have social outlets to save your sanity. Many people are not so lucky.

The are no answers. And it is going to get worse.

Do you think Los Angeles residents are going to stay inside for 3 months while other places are opening up??? I don't think so.

Stay tuned.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Typical deflection. I did not ask for comparisons. I asked very specifically whether you believed McConnell was an exception as per your statement.

And again, please define best in terms of what a lobbyist’s objective is for his or her employer.

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I do not see McConnell as a detriment to our government.

A lobbyist's objective is to sell his employers wares. To convince someone with the authority to by his employer's product to actually buy his employer's product. That product could be $300 hammers or $30 million fighter jets.

And you know this…why are you being such an *** and pushing this issue????

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

I do not see McConnell as a detriment to our government.

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You are incorrect, but at least you answered — sort of.

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

A lobbyist's objective is to sell his employers wares. To convince someone with the authority to by his employer's product to actually buy his employer's product. That product could be $300 hammers or $30 million fighter jets.

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So, no matter the product? And then you wonder why some people hate lobbyists?

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

First para……so they were generous and now they are meanies???? At least they still have jobs.

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Yes sir. Thank you, master.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

You are incorrect, but at least you answered — sort of.



So, no matter the product? And then you wonder why some people hate lobbyists?

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I am not incorrect. it is an opinion. As such, it is just as correct as yours.

Never said I liked or disliked lobbyists. They are just a part of life. I talk to lobbyists (salespeople) every week (although a bit less lately.) They are annoying. Many times the only way to get rid of them is to be rude.

And you didn't answer my question…why are you being such an *** and pushing this issue????

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Originally Posted by Crovash

Yes sir. Thank you, master.

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Dumb answer…means nothing.

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

I am not incorrect. it is an opinion. As such, it is just as correct as yours.

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In which case, my observation is correct.

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

I Never said I liked or disliked lobbyists. They are just a part of life. I talk to lobbyists (salespeople) every week (although a bit less lately.) They are annoying. Many times the only way to get rid of them is to be rude.

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And once again, you did not read with comprehension. I never said you liked or disliked lobbyists. Rather I said “you wonder why some people hate lobbyists,” l which I based on this post:

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

Interesting how so many hate lobbyists...

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As for...

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Originally Posted by Sluggo1

And you didn't answer my question…why are you being such an *** and pushing this issue????

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Because I am not being one. I am asking simple, straightforward questions. If that constitutes your criteria for being one, then there must be an awful lot of them in your little world.

https://twitter.com/hshaban/status/1...517733888?s=21

Because I am not being one. I am asking simple, straightforward questions. If that constitutes your criteria for being one, then there must be an awful lot of them in your little world.[/QUOTE]

You're pushing questions you know the answer to in an attempt to come off as the intellectual you like to project yourself as. And it's worse today than usual.

What happened??? Did the barista screw up your whatever when you asked for "my usual"??? Seems like that would take on crisis proportions for someone like you.

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Originally Posted by Sick Of It All

https://twitter.com/hshaban/status/1...517733888?s=21

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I'm going to reply about a tweet in general, not this specific tweet. now that there is an active moderator, shouldn't we be having tweets so that they can be read? using the [ ] allows them to be seen.
I've just seen this for awhile now, from many.

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Originally Posted by Sick Of It All

https://twitter.com/hshaban/status/1...517733888?s=21

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I’d be a little suspicious of “twitter news”.

That said, I would not be surprised that there is pressure to “cook the books.”