COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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10-03-2021, 09:22 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

If it isn't yet, it soon will become endemic.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00396-2

Define "soon." We're nowhere near the "pockets of the global population" stage.
10-03-2021, 09:23 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by catman

And by the way, Troll, no response to my suggestions as to how to handle the immigrants. Just moving the goalposts.
You asked me what I would do, with a typical trolling question (I don't expect you to answer honestly). I gave you a legitimate response and you moved on to another subject entirely.
What would be wrong with testing, quarantining for 14 days, re-testing and then vaccinating all of them?

Feel free to quote what you said, if I didn't reply it's because I missed it.

You're a ****ing adult with a career that talks like this.:laugh2:
10-03-2021, 09:26 PM
catman

What would be wrong with testing all the immigrants, quarantining them for 14 days, re-testing them and then vaccinating them?
Simple question.
10-03-2021, 09:28 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by catman

What would be wrong with testing all the immigrants, quarantining them for 14 days, re-testing them and then vaccinating them?
Simple question.

Where did I say anything would be wrong with it? I've repeatedly said I'm for vaccinating as many people as humanly possible.
10-03-2021, 09:28 PM
ewing

COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

He's the leader of BLM NYC. Most activists aren't well known, but he's organizing protests at city hall over the exact same issue people are criticizing random nobody unelected republicans for.

If a nobody republican is a fair game for criticism for being against masks and mandates, I don't see why this person isn't.

You said he represented or was representative of the unvaccinated black population. He’s a nobody. you are wrong. Creating “purity tests” for imagined liberals doesn’t change that nor will you finding a liberal that fails your purity test.

Also why should 13% of the population with 70% vaxxed rate get the same attention as much bigger group with a much lower vaccination rate?
10-03-2021, 09:30 PM
metswon69

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

His actions around the vaccine have been to promote it heavily from the beginning.

I very well might have you confused.

Phil Murphy is a democrat, the press wouldn't cover him negatively anyway.

Being against mask mandates isn't what you guys think it is. Faculty, Staff, and Students are not prevented from wearing a mask in school. No one is stopping them. They're just not preventing children from getting an education without wearing the mask.
And Masking Children is NOT a zero-cost solution. Especially for young children.

Not the point. You wouldn't hear that type of stupidity from any other governor with maybe the exception of Abbott. You don't get it either. The vaccine is a measure but its a supplementary measure to a sum of its parts. If you're vaccinating people but taking shortcuts in regards to other preventions, it doesn't nearly have the same efficacy. Yes, you can't prevent it all but you can certainly do more by sticking to a consensus game plan. Not giving people out after out to circumvent it.

Yes and certain sacrifices need to be made. Masks are not this cataclysm of negative psychological and development that anti maskers want people to believe it is.
10-03-2021, 09:31 PM
catman

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Originally Posted by natepro

Where did I say anything would be wrong with it? I've repeatedly said I'm for vaccinating as many people as humanly possible.

You did not respond to my question until now.
Thank you for finally answering it. Its about time.
Biden's opening borders campaign is being seen as we type. Over 200K immigrants monthly now as opposed to less than 75K/month last year.
Nothing further to explain to you.
10-03-2021, 09:33 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by catman

You did not respond to my question until now.
Thank you for finally answering it. Its about time.
Biden's opening borders campaign is being seen as we type. Over 200K immigrants monthly now as opposed to less than 75K/month last year.
Nothing further to explain to you.

And I told you that if I didn't, it was because I missed it. Go **** yourself.
10-03-2021, 09:35 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by catman

Did I say anything good about Trump? I have said that Trump's response to Covid was a disaster. Stop trying to read words that are not there.

You have quite literally said Biden’s Covid response was as bad as Trump’s before. Do you no longer believe that?
10-03-2021, 09:35 PM
Brewersfan255

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Originally Posted by natepro

And I told you that if I didn't, it was because I missed it. Go **** yourself.

Someone’s cranky tonight

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10-03-2021, 09:37 PM
dbroncos78087

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

Florida was ALSO hit hard in the initial wave. This disease is seasonal, were about to see the cold weather states get slammed, just like we did LAST YEAR.

One can only hope that Florida didn’t waste all our monoclonal antibody treatment supply during the warmer months by not getting people to get vaccinated.
10-03-2021, 09:38 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Someone’s cranky tonight

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Says the guy who called me a dick.
10-03-2021, 09:38 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

Florida was ALSO hit hard in the initial wave. This disease is seasonal, were about to see the cold weather states get slammed, just like we did LAST YEAR.

They were not hit anywhere near as hard in the initial wave. Even if it is seasonal, DeSantis saw a greater spike during their season than most states did because of their response.

Florida went from 33rd in deaths to 9th, and from 25th in cases to 3rd. If you get rid of the initial wave stats, Florida has had far more die per 100,000 than the states you listed.

California did not get hit nearly as hard during their season.

DeSantis’ response was terrible. One could make a credible argument for negligent manslaughter with how bad he did. His policy killed every bit as many people as Cuomo’s.
10-03-2021, 10:42 PM
dbroncos78087

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Originally Posted by valade16

They were not hit anywhere near as hard in the initial wave. Even if it is seasonal, DeSantis saw a greater spike during their season than most states did because of their response.

Florida went from 33rd in deaths to 9th, and from 25th in cases to 3rd. If you get rid of the initial wave stats, Florida has had far more die per 100,000 than the states you listed.

California did not get hit nearly as hard during their season.

DeSantis’ response was terrible. One could make a credible argument for negligent manslaughter with how bad he did. His policy killed every bit as many people as Cuomo’s.

The states that saw the initial spikes are the ones who had international airports where travel was frequent between China and the US. It's no surprise given where the virus came from. And I am not talking about the origins and all that cluster****.
10-03-2021, 11:16 PM
ciaban2.0

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Originally Posted by natepro

Define "soon." We're nowhere near the "pockets of the global population" stage.

Soon: Within 6 months. Were going to have to learn to live with this disease, some countries like the Nordic ones are already doing that. But that must be because they are all far-right anti-vax science denniers.