COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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10-14-2021, 01:32 AM
Brewersfan255

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Originally Posted by mngopher35

Lol of course we are back to taking Kamala's quote out of context yet again to play some dumb game. Does fox news cover this on a weekly basis or what?

Yeah you’re right. Harris statement had no affect
on people but we are led to believe Trumps anti vaccine caused all these people not to take it

So ****ing dumb

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10-14-2021, 01:34 AM
Brewersfan255

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Yea I will be honest, it's very tough to tell what to make of that. I mean there are people that went to the capitol from all over the country to engage in an insurrection on 1/6 based on what he said about the election being stolen from him and Republicans. But they draw the line at the vaccine. Very strange bunch, that's for sure.

That’s because they were against the vaccine before trump even trashed it. You think people are brainwashed by Trump but a lot of hard right conservatives are against vaccines regardless of what it is

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10-14-2021, 01:36 AM
Brewersfan255

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Originally Posted by valade16

Because it is being enacted specifically to attempt to keep minorities from voting.

A court literally overturned the North Carolina voter ID law for this exact reason:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...inatory-intent

“passed with racially discriminatory intent,”

“target African-Americans with almost surgical precision”

“Winning an election does not empower anyone in any party to engage in purposeful racial discrimination. The record evidence is clear that this is exactly what was done here,”

They give out ****ing free ids to EVERYONE who is eligible. Give me a ****ing break you ****ing piece of ****

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10-14-2021, 01:38 AM
Brewersfan255

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...abd3c903a1.jpg
So god damn racist that even if you don’t have any of those documents they’ll still issue an id so you can use it for voting. You basically just show up at the DMV and fill out a couple forms

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10-14-2021, 01:41 AM
Brewersfan255

Please tell me which one of these “forms” make it hard for people to get an ID or not have the documents for https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a66781e033.jpg

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10-14-2021, 01:44 AM
natepro

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Yeah you’re right. Harris statement had no affect
on people but we are led to believe Trumps anti vaccine caused all these people not to take it

So ****ing dumb

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10-14-2021, 01:44 AM
natepro

It's like a master class in not reading a goddamned thing that's been posted.
10-14-2021, 01:47 AM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

They give out ****ing free ids to EVERYONE who is eligible. Give me a ****ing break you ****ing piece of ****

And they restricted who was eligible, and put the ID facilities far away from black neighborhoods, and restricted the hours and times of the year at which you could get one.

Not to mention, as Natepro pointed out, the average cost to get a free ID was still between $75 and $175 to get all the proper documentation necessary (such as a birth certificate or Social Security card), which adjusted for inflation is a higher average cost than the literal Jim Crow poll taxes...

So no, you give me a break you ****ing piece of racist ****. If it wasn't racist, you and your ilk wouldn't add on so many things designed to make it harder for black people to get these IDs.

I mean, you are the same people who specifically restricted voting on Sunday morning in Georgia because that's when Souls to the Polls took black people to vote.

It's racism, pure and simple. If it wasn't, you wouldn't also be making it so hard to get IDs or to vote.
10-14-2021, 01:48 AM
valade16

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Originally Posted by natepro

It's like a master class in not reading a goddamned thing that's been posted.

That is assuming they can read. An assumption that seems less likely with every subsequent post of theirs.
10-14-2021, 03:25 AM
Brewersfan255

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Originally Posted by valade16

And they restricted who was eligible, and put the ID facilities far away from black neighborhoods, and restricted the hours and times of the year at which you could get one.

Not to mention, as Natepro pointed out, the average cost to get a free ID was still between $75 and $175 to get all the proper documentation necessary (such as a birth certificate or Social Security card), which adjusted for inflation is a higher average cost than the literal Jim Crow poll taxes...

So no, you give me a break you ****ing piece of racist ****. If it wasn't racist, you and your ilk wouldn't add on so many things designed to make it harder for black people to get these IDs.

I mean, you are the same people who specifically restricted voting on Sunday morning in Georgia because that's when Souls to the Polls took black people to vote.

It's racism, pure and simple. If it wasn't, you wouldn't also be making it so hard to get IDs or to vote.

Look at the document above and please tell me how any of that would cost $75 to get

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10-14-2021, 03:27 AM
Brewersfan255

Also are you saying it’s harder for black people to get a SSN or birth certificate than white people? Because if not how is that exactly racist then?

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10-14-2021, 03:45 AM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Look at the document above and please tell me how any of that would cost $75 to get

Well that form is from Wisconsin, whereas the link I posted of the law being struck down as clearly racist was from North Carolina.

If other states went to the lengths Wisconsin does to ensure everyone can get an ID card for free there wouldn't be a problem. But many other states do not go to these lengths, can you guess why?
10-14-2021, 03:48 AM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Also are you saying it’s harder for black people to get a SSN or birth certificate than white people? Because if not how is that exactly racist then?

I'm saying the law from North Carolina was specifically done to keep black people from voting. Actually I'm not even saying that, an Appellate court judge is.

But let's imagine that a greater % of black people are impoverished, and you know this and then add a requirement that will cost money in order to vote. If you know that black people on average are less likely to be able to afford this additional cost to vote, and you enact the law specifically to reduce their turnout, that is racist.
10-14-2021, 07:56 AM
brett05

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Originally Posted by statquo

That's what Donald Trump said though. You believe him? Yes or no answer.

There is more than just him. You know that right? And it was before him. You know that right? And President Obama's own book jacket. You know that right?
10-14-2021, 07:57 AM
brett05

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Originally Posted by valade16

Who pushed it the most?

President Trump would be who I would say.