COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men

It’s still possible to overload the system though. Some areas are slowly opening and we’ll see the effect but the reality is we could have to close up again if the rate increases. It’s sad how lagging we are in resources but it’s been run privately and this is what happens.


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Yea, I'm in California, I think we gonna lay low for a bit, watch the Guinea pigs and see what happens.



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Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men

It’s still possible to overload the system though. Some areas are slowly opening and we’ll see the effect but the reality is we could have to close up again if the rate increases. It’s sad how lagging we are in resources but it’s been run privately and this is what happens.

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I wonder how much the widespread awareness has caused people to be quicker to go to the doctor so they are getting more attention than is strictly required and more than a normal flu would use.

Of course Coronavirus' faster harder attack on the respiratory system is a major factor on the load on the system too. But people in the regular flu years when they are short of breath and miss a few days of work but survive and recover, now when they go in a hospital is looking at their blood oxygen and making decisions from that. I found it interesting that the NHS in the UK is refusing respirators until a patient is in total distress to manage the load. They've also been sending a lot of people home with oxy masks to use "as needed".

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

Yea, too bad we couldn't be more like Italy...

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We never re-stocked the national strategic reserve from 2009 which is a major failing of the federal government.

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

Yea, too bad we couldn't be more like Italy...

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As I demonstrated several times, they fared better than we did in some comparable settings.

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Originally Posted by Zmaster52

And the amount of people ignoring the data and clamoring to open things up are frightening.

Opening things up just puts up back to square one. I don’t see any reasonable way where we can open up and not have to worry about a second wave. The Wharton mode suggests another 250k or so people will get infected if we open back up. That’s probably a low estimate considering the amount of cases that haven’t been reported.

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I can't help but agree with this. as things open up again what is there to prevent people from getting this? social distancing? masks? except we've already seen hundreds/thousands of people that don't care about doing that.

as far as I'm aware there is no drug to help prevent people from getting this, as more and more people are exposed to each other it just creates more risk, especially when one can have covid19 and not even be aware of it.

is this accurate or misleading? not that I trust WHO.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...-states-reopen

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US endures worst one-day death toll yet as states reopen: WHO
By Marty Johnson - 05/02/20 07:32 PM EDT

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The U.S. saw its largest one-day death toll from the coronavirus pandemic to date on Thursday as several states began to reopen parts of their economies, according to data from the World Health Organization (WHO).

The WHO reported that 2,909 people in the U.S. died on Thursday, shattering the previous record of 2,471 deaths reported on April 23, CNBC reported.

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Originally Posted by Crovash

As I demonstrated several times, they fared better than we did in some comparable settings.

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Certainly not in the resources department. The didn't have enough beds and ventilators and people died as direct result of that.

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Originally Posted by Scoots

We never re-stocked the national strategic reserve from 2009 which is a major failing of the federal government.

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The private sector of course!!!

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I can't help but agree with this. as things open up again what is there to prevent people from getting this? social distancing? masks? except we've already seen hundreds/thousands of people that don't care about doing that.

as far as I'm aware there is no drug to help prevent people from getting this, as more and more people are exposed to each other it just creates more risk, especially when one can have covid19 and not even be aware of it.

is this accurate or misleading? not that I trust WHO.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...-states-reopen

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This is a misleading headline, America is so big that it cannot be looked at like 1 entity. So yes, the death toll may be at its highest, but if Wisconsin has no cases and they want to start opening up, then so what?

If they talking about a specific city, like Denver has highest death toll as it re opens, then yea, the criticism in that headline makes sense.

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

We didn't overwhelm the system. I'm not saying we need to start having parades but things need to start opening up to some degree.

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They are. What are you complaining about?


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Originally Posted by Scoots

I wonder how much the widespread awareness has caused people to be quicker to go to the doctor so they are getting more attention than is strictly required and more than a normal flu would use.

Of course Coronavirus' faster harder attack on the respiratory system is a major factor on the load on the system too. But people in the regular flu years when they are short of breath and miss a few days of work but survive and recover, now when they go in a hospital is looking at their blood oxygen and making decisions from that. I found it interesting that the NHS in the UK is refusing respirators until a patient is in total distress to manage the load. They've also been sending a lot of people home with oxy masks to use "as needed".

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You love to think everyone is going to the doctor all the time. People are avoiding the doctor if at all possible- that where the plague is


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Originally Posted by ewing

They are. What are you complaining about?


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A lot of people are quite obviously against. Thanks for the reply, lol.

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Originally Posted by SpecialFNK

I can't help but agree with this. as things open up again what is there to prevent people from getting this? social distancing? masks? except we've already seen hundreds/thousands of people that don't care about doing that.

as far as I'm aware there is no drug to help prevent people from getting this, as more and more people are exposed to each other it just creates more risk, especially when one can have covid19 and not even be aware of it.

is this accurate or misleading? not that I trust WHO.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...-states-reopen

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FNK agrees with me...the world must be ending.


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Originally Posted by fingerbang

A lot of people are quite obviously against. Thanks for the reply, lol.

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So nothing. just buying into some binary us vs them BS. Guess what? most people are pretty much in agreement on this one. Open slowly with precautions. I’m in NJ with a super liberal governor. We are the biggest hot spot in the country but we just opened parks.


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Originally Posted by ewing

So nothing. just buying into some binary us vs them BS. Guess what? most people are pretty much in agreement on this one. Open slowly with precautions. I’m in NJ with a super liberal governor. We are the biggest hot spot in the country but we just opened parks.


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I was arguing with Zmaster before you butted in and got snippy.

You never have to ask someone from NJ where they're from they'll always tell you.

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

I was arguing with Zmaster before you butted in and got snippy.

You never have to ask someone from NJ where they're from they'll always tell you.

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your ranting against your imaginary enemies. You are sooo much smarter then them though. Pat yourself on the back


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