COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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Indeed, a number of recent polls by Axios, Civiqs, NBC News/Wall Street Journal, Pew, Reuters, and Quinnipiac University have all confirmed that concern about COVID-19 is greater among self-identified Democrats than Republicans (this summary suggests that, on average, 65 percent of Democrats are either somewhat or very concerned about catching the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus compared to only 38 percent of Republicans), while Republicans are much more likely to believe that social distancing is an unnecessary overreaction.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psy...-beliefs%3famp

The title of this thread came to me prior to actually finding this article. Just something I've been noticing more and more lately.

Regardless this could be used as a general thread for COVID-19/coronavirus discussion as well.

People are in a culture war and we don;t know how to stop... Hell There's a chance for a global ceasefire to actual war and we can't listen to each other with out calling people stupid.

Ya know people are scared... scared of dieing. Scared of going broke. scared of losing control. And instead of shutting the **** up and going you know what it sucks to deal with that. Instead of processing all these god damn feelings... It's just easier to say you are ****ing stupid because Trump/ libtards.

I don’t think that this split is entirely political. Republicans and democrats are widely believed to see the world differently in a way that would impact their view of the crisis.

Republicans tend to be less likely to trust anything out of the government including scientific data. The tend to look for solutions by the individual and not the collective. Democrats are more likely to accept government information especially scientific information and solutions in group actions.

I’m not saying there isn’t a strong political component to the division, just that there is also likely personality reasons for how we see the crisis.

I think republicans were sold a story that this virus was no big ****ing deal by their president and Fox News and other conservative outlets, so that’s what they were fed and therefore that’s their reality.

Now these outlets are telling them that is time to open the country and well here they go with that.

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Originally Posted by GasMan

I don’t think that this split is entirely political. Republicans and democrats are widely believed to see the world differently in a way that would impact their view of the crisis.

Republicans tend to be less likely to trust anything out of the government including scientific data. The tend to look for solutions by the individual and not the collective. Democrats are more likely to accept government information especially scientific information and solutions in group actions.

I’m not saying there isn’t a strong political component to the division, just that there is also likely personality reasons for how we see the crisis.

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Absolutely but you also can't deny the correlation. Yes, I'm aware you didn't but still.

In case people weren't aware of the protesting in Michigan the other day:

https://youtu.be/1t-GzuZukQs

WI Senator slays China

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/201.../proposals/sr7

When I read the title I thought it was going to be about the two parties trying to maneuver this whole thing to a political advantage (they are ABSOLUTELY trying to do that, both of them, if you don't think so you are not paying attention or your blinders are in the way).

I think Republicans tend to be older and thus more stubborn. Dems are more likely to be more connected so they get bombarded with more of this **** on a moment to moment basis.

I don't think it's inherent in the ideology so much as they way they live their lives that has resulted in that polls differences.

It's just the sad state of the culture. No leadership. No direction. No responsibility. No trust. Too many individuals. Blame someone else. Rinse. Repeat.

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Originally Posted by Sick Of It All

I think republicans were sold a story that this virus was no big ****ing deal by their president and Fox News and other conservative outlets, so that’s what they were fed and therefore that’s their reality.

Now these outlets are telling them that is time to open the country and well here they go with that.

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Yeah that’s exactly it! Damn Fox News! I’ve always said that shutting the economy down is stupid. That’s going to potentially cause more harm than the virus itself will. Especially if these numbers are true where the mortality rate could be closer to the flu than the 1-2% like first projected.

People have lost their jobs. People don’t have any money. Small businesses are closing daily. Over 50% of restaurants in WI will likely be shutting down for good according to the WI restaurant association. Depression is likely a lot higher resulting in more suicide cases. Domestic abuse issues are higher now and kids/seniors are being forced out of a lot of stuff. Prom, graduation, athletes missing their last year.

They should have protected the most vulnerable without shutting down the entire country.


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Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)

In case people weren't aware of the protesting in Michigan the other day:

https://youtu.be/1t-GzuZukQs

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Another protest happened in North Carolina. A similar protest in Maryland is occurring tomorrow, and in Pennsylvania on Monday, where they are debating a bill from their house that would reopen non-essential businesses.

People have moved from support of the lockdown to needing to get back to work and wanting to avoid being ruined financially. I completely understand it.

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Originally Posted by statquo

It's just the sad state of the culture. No leadership. No direction. No responsibility. No trust. Too many individuals. Blame someone else. Rinse. Repeat.

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Doesn't help that the president is letting the states handle all of this. There is absolutely no direction from the top leading this, and even if we had a modicum of that, it would help. Instead, we have what we have, and the president abdicating responsibility to the states, and the governors saying that the federal government will have no say when they will reopen, and they will reopen when ready.

https://twitter.com/jonathanmetzl/st...526912513?s=21

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Originally Posted by ThomasTomasz

Another protest happened in North Carolina. A similar protest in Maryland is occurring tomorrow, and in Pennsylvania on Monday, where they are debating a bill from their house that would reopen non-essential businesses.

People have moved from support of the lockdown to needing to get back to work and wanting to avoid being ruined financially. I completely understand it.

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This country isn’t meant to be shut down. People want to work, run their business, go to ballgames, movies etc. People are struggling financially and we have two parties who can’t even pass a simple bill to add more money into the small business loan. I know people who got permanently laid off. He’s 61 and was 3 years away from retirement. Going to be hard for him to find a good paying job now.

There’s gotta be a way to open up counties that haven’t been hit hard yet still protect the most vulnerable. Things like nursing homes and keep fans out of stadiums yet until this thing is pretty much gone.

There’s no need though to shut the entire country down, especially when a lot of states have very few cases.


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Originally Posted by statquo

It's just the sad state of the culture. No leadership. No direction. No responsibility. No trust. Too many individuals. Blame someone else. Rinse. Repeat.

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This


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