COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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10-13-2021, 09:27 PM
metswon69

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Originally Posted by natepro

Almost as of on cue, this shows up from from the NY Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/13/u...-tuskegee.html

Mysteriously, Harris is not cited as a reason for their hesitancy.

Biden's plan to send people door to door, however, is one of the reasons numbers are going up.

See evidence. Seems like a simple request.

And funny enough, MJT or Boebert would ask you to shoot those people on sight.
10-13-2021, 09:31 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by metswon69

See evidence. Seems like a simple request.

And funny enough, MJT or Boebert would ask you to shoot those people on sight.

Yeah, but I have an Android phone, so it's still Google.

Damnit!
10-13-2021, 09:32 PM
metswon69

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Originally Posted by valade16

Did any Tuskegee survivors refuse to get the vaccine because of Kamala’s statement?

Here's another thing. Are we going to generalize that minorities weren't smart enough to take from that statement what was actually said? Because that's what a lot of this sounds like. Like all they got from the statement was not to trust Donald Trump in regards to the vaccine and not the part that we should listen to public health officials about its readiness/how safe and effective it is.
10-13-2021, 09:33 PM
Brewersfan255

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Originally Posted by valade16

Gotta love how they act like Harris’ single comment caused mass inaction but Trump’s literal thousands of statements against Covid mitigation measures had no effect.

Absolute insanity.

People booed trump when he said to get the vaccine. If they listened to him wouldn’t they have gotten it?

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10-13-2021, 09:33 PM
valade16

At this point in time, people claiming Kamala Harris’ statement causes vaccine hesitancy is more responsible for vaccine hesitancy than her actual statement.
10-13-2021, 09:36 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

People booed trump when he said to get the vaccine. If they listened to him wouldn’t they have gotten it?

He made this bed when he decided to make Covid part of the culture war and made any medical safety precautions part of the Liberal, bad side. He was against social distancing, lockdowns, masks, mandates, Fauci, etc.

You can’t put that genie back in the bottle. Hard to convince people to get a vaccine when you spent a year telling them that everyone involved in making the vaccine and pushing it were liars who were trying to control you.
10-13-2021, 09:37 PM
Brewersfan255

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Originally Posted by valade16

He made this bed when he decided to make Covid part of the culture war and made any medical safety precautions part of the Liberal, bad side. He was against social distancing, lockdowns, masks, mandates, Fauci, etc.

You can’t put that genie back in the bottle. Hard to convince people to get a vaccine when you spent a year telling them that everyone involved in making the vaccine and pushing it were liars who were trying to control you.

Or maybe a lot of these people were against vaccines in general and science and weren’t going to take it regardless

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10-13-2021, 09:44 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Or maybe a lot of these people were against vaccines in general and science and weren’t going to take it regardless

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When you're so dedicated to defending Trump that you'll call his followers idiots as a defense.
10-13-2021, 09:46 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Or maybe a lot of these people were against vaccines in general and science and weren’t going to take it regardless

Statistically, there was nowhere near this many people who have been historically anti-vaccine in the US. There was a community, but it was smaller and a fringe belief.

I don’t think nearly as many people would be as vociferously against masks or other measures if Trump hadn’t pushed for them to be so combative and resistant.
10-13-2021, 09:53 PM
Brewersfan255

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Originally Posted by valade16

Statistically, there was nowhere near this many people who have been historically anti-vaccine in the US. There was a community, but it was smaller and a fringe belief.

I don’t think nearly as many people would be as vociferously against masks or other measures if Trump hadn’t pushed for them to be so combative and resistant.

You really don’t know this though. They interviewed a lot of people in rural areas who feel they don’t need the vaccine because they aren’t around anyone. I would say there’s a fraction of people who won’t take it because of Trump but I think there’s a greater amount who won’t take it because of anti science/vaccine or because they feel like they don’t need it

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10-13-2021, 09:54 PM
catman

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Originally Posted by natepro

And there you go using her words out of context.

I think I have a BINGO now.

Troll on, little troll. Continue your whinefest.
10-13-2021, 09:55 PM
catman

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Originally Posted by valade16

He made this bed when he decided to make Covid part of the culture war and made any medical safety precautions part of the Liberal, bad side. He was against social distancing, lockdowns, masks, mandates, Fauci, etc.

You can’t put that genie back in the bottle. Hard to convince people to get a vaccine when you spent a year telling them that everyone involved in making the vaccine and pushing it were liars who were trying to control you.

You are absolutely right about this. Had he taken Covid more seriously, he would have been re-elected in a landslide and more people would be vaccinated.
10-13-2021, 10:00 PM
catman

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Originally Posted by metswon69

No because all I'm looking for is evidence that Harris's statement lead to minorities not taking the vaccine.

Tuskegee Airman incident is all you need to know.
10-13-2021, 10:01 PM
catman

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Originally Posted by valade16

Did any Tuskegee survivors refuse to get the vaccine because of Kamala’s statement?

I haven't polled all of them. I do not know. Perhaps the troll could look it up on Google?
10-13-2021, 10:01 PM
dbroncsinmo

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Originally Posted by metswon69

No because all I'm looking for is evidence that Harris's statement lead to minorities not taking the vaccine.

Technically, no. You asked him what effect (z) her words (x) combined with their existing distrust (y) had.