Either way, we can all agree that over half of all black people in the US are not subject to this mandate, so that was a completely fictitious argument.
Either way, we can all agree that over half of all black people in the US are not subject to this mandate, so that was a completely fictitious argument.
You look like a complete fool is more like what it is. You’ve failed to respond, coincidentally, to numerous posts that expose you for your ridiculous stances in about every thread you’ve popped into this last week. Use that Brett playbook I’m sure he won’t mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambovenzi
It does if I question your motives. Is this about black people or is it about you? Because as I said before, its not a race thing. Its a personal choice matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambovenzi
No, I don't consider something racist that someone of their own volition creates. Everyone is playing by the same rules. Voter suppression isn't created by black people. Its created by old white dudes in Washington and those respective state's legislatures.
I wasn't the one who tried to pull the "black people are bad" routine. You did but yeah, definitely no shifting goalposts there. In junction you seem to have little concern with unvaccinated people spreading the virus whether its being through not wearing mask or not getting the vaccine. That has dead bodies attached to it.
Literally none of this disputes my positions.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
More black people existing in the country than in NY City does not erase the leftist rationale of racism, nor does it make it ok to mistreat a minority of people.
Yes a national voter ID law, if implemented, would effect more people than an apartheid limited to NYC.
That is not a particularly strong or relevant point.
440 studies in Florida now have to quarantine after 51 students and faculty tested positive just two days into the school year.
https://www.npr.org/2021/08/12/10272...m_campaign=npr
Just one district too. There’s 9 districts in Florida that are larger as well that will no doubt see similar results.Quote:
Originally Posted by natepro
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Says the liberal that uses black bodies as his shield for arguments. Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by natepro
Just the facts and evidence underlying those positions? You repeatedly stated over half of black people in America were second class citizens, a claim wholly without merit.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambovenzi
As for the bolded, I can only surmise you're being disingenuous here or you are genuinely ignorant of voter ID laws.
It's not that a national voter ID law if implemented would effect more people than the mandate in NYC (although that is true), it's that the voter ID laws currently in existence in over 20 states do effect more people than the mandate in NYC.
Yet there is absolutely zero complaint from you about them, even though implied earlier that you are also against them (though I've received no confirmation on that point).
Honestly, this is why I accused you of being conservative the other day, all your views tend to lean conservative (and by all I don't mean all your views since you may have some that lean left though when I asked for some you have yet to answer, I mean every view you have thus far espoused on here).
Is there a little bit of a double standard? Sure. Life is full of them (you thinking it's fascism to require vaccines but not clothes is a double standard for example).
But again, there's a massive difference in severity in effecting a small amount of people in a small place for a small amount of time to effecting a far larger group of people in a lot of places for all time, which you don't seem to be acknowledging.
Joe ****ing BidenQuote:
Originally Posted by natepro
I certainly haven't seen Fingerbang on here recently to talk about how amazing Florida is doing at handling covid lolQuote:
Originally Posted by natepro
Questioning my motives is just a ****** distraction that has no bearing on the merit of my statements that blew a hole in your ideological positions.Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
You seem to be resistant to that fact.
The logic, arguments and observations are not tied to me.
You can have the fortitude to deal with them or not.
Imagining I'm a bad person doesn't matter and doesn't change it.
Apartheid laws are also created by 'old white dudes' like DiBlasio and enforced on the people of NY.Quote:
No, I don't consider something racist that someone of their own volition creates. Voter suppression isn't created by black people. Its created by old white dudes in Washington and those respective state's legislatures.
In many cases fault can be placed on black people for choosing not to take basic steps to get IDs in the same way you place the blame on them for not getting vaccinated.
This is just not the crucial difference that you want it to be.
If that is the new standard then you have forfeited claims to calling voter I.D. racist.
You openly postulated that people who don't get the vaccine are bad people.Quote:
I wasn't the one who tried to pull the "black people are bad" routine. You did but yeah, definitely no shifting goalposts there.
I simply recognized that and suggested you were digging yourself a bigger hole. Its not a goalpost shift.
Thats not my central point at all. Just an added dent in your position.
You are flailing around trying not to address the central arguments and the flaws in your position.
The false claims of false dichotomy didn't work.
The personal attacks and speculation didn't work.
Saying its easy to get a vaccine didn't work.
Saying I moved the goalposts didn't work.
What will you try next?
I recommend recognizing that I was right and revoking your advocacy of the 'racist' state discrimination policy.
Is that even a consideration or will you stick with it no matter how wrong you are?
2nd best option is addressing the points.
So you went from believing the election was rigged on election night, to denying you ever did and saying you didn't, to now back to believing the election was rigged.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
What a wild ride.
And for the record, I don't believe voter ID laws or stricter voting laws are inherently racist, but when they are used to specifically target Democratic and black voters they become disenfranchising and/or racist.
I'm definitely going to be holding my breath waiting for you to show me doing that. Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo
So no, then?Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo