COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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Originally Posted by catman

One thing that could have helped is if some would not have been so aggressive in their pro-mask and vaccine stance. Public shaming of those who didn't want to take the vaccines or wear masks did more to dissuade those who were not sure than any positive message from a politician would have.

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Who did Biden publicly shame?

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

Sure glad the white house solved the price problem on at-home testing with their one-time 500 million purchase.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/some-fa...re-11641499169

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Your article is from almost a month ago.

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

Interesting take on what the media's war on Rogan is really about.

https://www.newstatesman.com/culture...-about-control

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talk about the over-reach on the part of some people and of course the government in putting personal opinion of one side over teh rights of others to discuss or disagree with the government or companies. rogon has merely a talk show. Free speech. He and others are not preaching sedition or yelling fire in a crowded theater for cripes sake.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

When he is having people on who spread misinformation, the media needs to call it out. These Ivermectin hucksters need to be called out at every turn!

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That is your opinion. Some very smart and educated medical doctors and scientists disagree with you and your croonies.

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

We are seeing deaths as a percentage of cases come way down. Vaccines are doing their job. Perhaps Joe Rogan could tell his followers to get the vaccine and do what they can to keep from clogging hospitals with the unvaccinated.

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It is a big lie that hospitals are clogged with the unvaccinated. Hospitals don't have enough people caring for people because they either fired workers who wouldn't be vaxxed or they quit voluntarily because of the mandates.

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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey

It is a big lie that hospitals are clogged with the unvaccinated. Hospitals don't have enough people caring for people because they either fired workers who wouldn't be vaxxed or they quit voluntarily because of the mandates.

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:laugh2:

This goes well with your hundreds of thousands of people have died who caught COVID in hospitals when there for other ailments argument. All ********.

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

Cases are four times what they were at any peak despite the presence of a vaccine so they gotta blame someone. It's Joe Rogan's fault, lmao.

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Have you seen charts of the differences in hospitalizations and deaths between the vaxxed and the unvaxxed? It's stunningly obvious how well the vaccines work...

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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey

It is a big lie that hospitals are clogged with the unvaccinated. Hospitals don't have enough people caring for people because they either fired workers who wouldn't be vaxxed or they quit voluntarily because of the mandates.

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You realize both can be true, yes?

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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey

That is your opinion. Some very smart and educated medical doctors and scientists disagree with you and your croonies.

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Well it is more than just my opinion. I will once again post this same exact link.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consum...event-covid-19

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Originally Posted by Bird of Prey

It is a big lie that hospitals are clogged with the unvaccinated. Hospitals don't have enough people caring for people because they either fired workers who wouldn't be vaxxed or they quit voluntarily because of the mandates.

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Hospitals got rid of low double digits of employees when they employ five digit numbers of employees. You're talking about firing tenths of a percentage being the cause for hospital issues. Or put another way 99.9% of hospital employees complied.

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Originally Posted by catman

And by the way, I agree that Trump did not do enough to sell the vaccines. Had he done so, there would be fewer people that were unvaccinated. Biden's selling job was substandard.

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This assertion sounds just as smarmy as one by Special.

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

How about not insulting these people? Typically when you want to get people to do something you don’t insult and punish them because it only makes them dig in even deeper


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Logic and facts don't work. Enough of that has been presented to you on this forum and yet you're still not vaccinated.

So the only two things left to say is that you're either callous or misinformed because even if you dont want to get the vaccine for yourself, there are people around you who would benefit from you getting it.

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Originally Posted by natepro

I see you've found a selective editor for your fanfic now. Are we going to pretend that those are the only claims you've made?

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WHAT? Holy ****...OK
https://theintercept.com/2021/12/21/...d-rapid-tests/

https://www.newsweek.com/jen-psaki-m...vid-19-1662564

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1971609.html

https://gizmodo.com/white-house-mock...e-c-1848171363

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...esting-regime/

https://news.yahoo.com/psaki-address...222231864.html


Here you go, half a dozen articles talking about Psaki mocking the idea of sending at home tests to people, everyone is mainstream, not a single one is RW. So either I made it up and selectively edited it, OR EVERYONE in the media did too.

Let's look at the other things from my *fanfic*
I said the white house set a July 4th goal of 70% vaccination rate.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...%20to%20normal.

Well, here is the whitehouse.gov on this subject.

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As we continue our path out of the COVID-19 pandemic, today, President Biden will announce a goal for 70% of the U.S. adult population to have one vaccine shot and 160 million U.S. adults to be fully vaccinated by July 4th

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Let's look at the last one, I said they started rolling out mandates in response to failing to hit their goal on July 4th.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55193939
He literally said that vaccine mandates wouldn't happen back in Dec of 2020, when did that change course.
When were the first mandates...
July...
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-adminis...204441670.html

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Originally Posted by Crovash

This assertion sounds just as smarmy as one by Special.

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oh I don't know, it was certainly better than Trump's, but Biden's attempts certainly weren't as effective as they could have been

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Originally Posted by SiteWolf

oh I don't know, it was certainly better than Trump's, but Biden's attempts certainly weren't as effective as they could have been

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Agreed, but the way he stated it was classic Special (and the other way around from how you correctly characterized it).

Trump’s efforts “did not do enough.”

But Biden’s efforts were “substandard.”