I'm happy that he got through the pandemic unscathed, but he should have gotten the vaccination. I would also trade the million or so Americans who died for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES445
I'm happy that he got through the pandemic unscathed, but he should have gotten the vaccination. I would also trade the million or so Americans who died for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES445
If they had recognized herd immunity as being better than the "jabs", thousands to other lives would have been saved. This should have been treated as a very severe type of influenza not a pandemic requiring lockdowns and forced vaccinations.Quote:
Originally Posted by catman
You don't know what the **** herd immunity is. It is nowhere near as good as the vaccine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird of Prey
You would need to pass significantly higher vaccination levels to achieve herd immunity, dipshit. Anyways, I'm not sure you know what herd immunity is because last time you referred to the concept of herd immunity when it was, in fact, natural immunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird of Prey
He doesn't have a ****ing clue. Not just about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
We had that argument a few months ago. I showed the facts regarding this and I am correct. People who have herd immunity had way less cases of Covid going forward than those who only took the jabs. That is BTW consistent with the history of other viruses contracted having the human being develop a herd immunity to getting it ever again.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
****ing Christ, you've confused acquired immunity with herd immunity.
What the F are you babbling about now crapinmypants? Why don't you take a vacation and shut up for awhile. Everytime something comes out of your mouth you are wrong. The studies that I showed back a few months ago illustrated that herd immunity proved to be more a preventative than the jabs. Ever Fauci and company admitted that their program should have used herd immunity more as an important part of actions to slow or stop the virus.Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
herd im·mu·ni·ty
[herd immunity]
NOUN
resistance to the spread of an infectious disease within a population that is based on pre-existing immunity of a high proportion of individuals as a result of previous infection or vaccination:
Yes and you're still a dipshit. Acquiring herd immunity would take significantly higher vaccination levels than where we are currently at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird of Prey
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/h...ronavirus.html
I'm aware of what herd immunity is. I know reading is hard for you but you referred to herd immunity as natural immunity. They are entirely different concepts.Quote:
In the pandemic’s early days, Dr. Fauci tended to cite the same 60 to 70 percent estimate that most experts did. About a month ago, he began saying “70, 75 percent” in television interviews. And last week, in an interview with CNBC News, he said “75, 80, 85 percent” and “75 to 80-plus percent.”
In a telephone interview the next day, Dr. Fauci acknowledged that he had slowly but deliberately been moving the goal posts. He is doing so, he said, partly based on new science, and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks.
Do you know how many people have to die to achieve herd immunity naturally?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird of Prey
What is interesting is that this a-hole Fauci admitted to lying to you and the other idiots who believed his ******** also and you way that I'm the dipshit? Funny ********Quote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
It really close to a photo finish for who is dumber on this issue. Okay, its you. I did not mention natural immunity anywhere. I've talked about herd immunity from the beginning. do us all a favor and quit lying.
As for Fauci, so the dipshit is a liar. that's what he always has been. He lied about masks being effective. how to wear them, what kind to wear, etc. He just loves himself and really enjoyed getting behind teh microphone and talking big man **** to an audience.
The part that you do not understand, genius is that the percentage of immunity needed to become herd immune for a country doesn't mean ****. If you had the virus and recovered your body is immune normally to teh invasion of another virus trying to get in with the bodies antibodies killing it. Fauci's stats don't mean **** in the actual prevention of the disease. Whether the %age was 65% or 90% is just a policy number, not a immunity effectiveness number.
The Fing arrogance of Fauci should result in a prison sentence for the a-hole. In you own article he admitted that he lied about herd immunity after lying about problems with the jabs harmful effects, and the stupid declarations regarding masks.
Not many. The fatality rate for Covid is very very low amongst normally healthy people and the young. That is why, genius how bad Fauci and the health agencies did in responding to Covid. They should have focused the vaccines being given to the old and the informed. young healthy people and grade school children should no have been given teh jab and instead have let them recover with herd immunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
Yes you did you dipshit. Btw, I didn't say you said natural immunity. I said you referred to something as herd immunity that was in fact, natural immunity because you're a complete ****ing moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird of Prey
Herd immunity requires much higher thresholds before the virus becomes inane or peters out to the rest of the uninfected population. Not to mention, because of new variants, re-infection rates are still significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird of Prey
https://www.webmd.com/lung/what-is-herd-immunity#1
You're nowhere near a herd immunity threshold nor is at risk populations out of danger.Quote:
In 2020, researchers estimated the R0 for COVID-19 to be between 2 and 3. This meant that one person could infect 2 to 3 other people. It also meant that 50% to 67% of the population would need to be resistant before herd immunity would kick in and infection rates started to go down.
New variants like Delta raised the R0 to between 5 and 7. Omicron has proven far more contagious.
The main obstacle to herd immunity to COVID-19 right now is that the virus that causes the disease is “novel,” or new. That means that it hasn’t infected humans before and everyone is at risk of infection. There’s no existing immunity to build on.
Another potential barrier is that we don’t know how strong the immune protection is or how long it will last in people who’ve had COVID-19. Early research on monkeys showed that they made antibodies to the virus that protected them from a second infection a month later. If the coronavirus is like the flu, we can expect a few months of protection.
While there are now vaccines to protect against COVID-19, It may be months before enough people can receive them. It is hoped, that the vaccines will eventually help bring the spread under control. Researchers estimate that 75-80% of the population would need to be vaccinated before we can have herd immunity.
Herd immunity, or community immunity, is when a large part of the population of an area is immune to a specific disease. If enough people are resistant to the cause of a disease, such as a virus or bacteria, it has nowhere to go.
While not every single individual may be immune, the group as a whole has protection. This is because there are fewer high-risk people overall. The infection rates drop, and the disease peters out.
Herd immunity protects at-risk populations. These include babies and those whose immune systems are weak and can’t get resistance on their own.
Stop talking on things you clearly have no understanding of.
Maybe you should take your own adviceQuote:
Originally Posted by metswon69
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Look the other dipshit chimed in with his moronic take. How surprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255