COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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02-16-2021, 03:51 PM
nastynice

It's just bizarre that you think lockdowns have no effect.

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02-16-2021, 03:53 PM
ewing

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I'm still all about Sweden... and Florida. Best place to be in the world right now.

Honest question, they letting you eat indoors in San Fran right now?

Doesn’t matter where you go you’re Staten Island all the way

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02-16-2021, 03:58 PM
fingerbang

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Doesn’t matter where you go you’re Staten Island all the way

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I've driven through it a few times.
02-16-2021, 03:59 PM
nastynice

You loved that ****...

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02-16-2021, 04:03 PM
fingerbang

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Originally Posted by nastynice

It's just bizarre that you think lockdowns have no effect.

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They have some degree of effectiveness I'm sure. Whether it actually justifies the economic disaster is another story.

You're a Cali guy right? You've been locked down for months and months and months and you finally got your big covid spike in late January. :laugh2:

Next you'll say the same sorry *** line about Xmas dinner as if its the only time people have eaten dinner with a few family members over the past 11 months.
02-16-2021, 04:05 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

They have some degree of effectiveness I'm sure. Whether it actually justifies the economic disaster is another story.

You're a Cali guy right? You've been locked down for months and months and months and you finally got your big covid spike in late January. :laugh2:

Next you'll say the same sorry *** line about Xmas dinner as if its the only time people have eaten dinner with a few family members over the past 11 months.

How many prevented deaths would justify it in your mind?
02-16-2021, 04:07 PM
valade16

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NYC is ****ed. Commercial real estate is ****ed and businesses are leaving. I have the NHL package so I get to watch the local commercials. There's a doom and gloom one about how much tax revenue they lost because of all the people leaving. I get a kick out of it every time it plays.

And Cuomo still killed all the old people anyway. Great job. Give that man an award.

I think this pandemic has accelerated the erosion of traditional job paradigms such as working 9 to 5 and having to go to the office. In the age of technology, it's becoming more apparent that people don't need to be confined to specific work hours or a specific place.

I think this will create a lot of movement from northern areas to areas with better weather.
02-16-2021, 04:07 PM
nastynice

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

They have some degree of effectiveness I'm sure. Whether it actually justifies the economic disaster is another story.

You're a Cali guy right? You've been locked down for months and months and months and you finally got your big covid spike in late January. :laugh2:

Next you'll say the same sorry *** line about Xmas dinner as if its the only time people have eaten dinner with a few family members over the past 11 months.

The entire country got its biggest covid spike in january because the entire country experienced a christmas spike on top of the thanksgiving spike. I dont see what's funny about that, it's just stats. The state closed down in mid novemebr because the spikes were easily predictable and the shut down saved tens of thousands of lives.

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02-16-2021, 04:10 PM
fingerbang

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How many prevented deaths would justify it in your mind?

You keep saying that like it's even quantifiable. I remember months back when the politicians (both parties) were using some bs study about prevented deaths so they could pat themselves on the back for all the lives they "saved".
02-16-2021, 04:13 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by nastynice

The entire country got its biggest covid spike in january because the entire country experienced a christmas spike on top of the thanksgiving spike. I dont see what's funny about that, it's just stats. The state closed down in mid novemebr because the spikes were easily predictable and the shut down saved tens of thousands of lives.

California, Texas, and Florida all have nearly identical covid rates of infection per 1 million people (Texas and California 88,000 and Florida 85,000), however Florida and Texas have higher rates of death per 1 million (Texas 1,400, Florida 1,350, California 1,200).

If Florida had California's death rate, they'd have 4,000 less dead. So I guess this is a roundabout way of saying that whatever California did seems to have been more effective than whatever Texas and Florida did.
02-16-2021, 04:14 PM
fingerbang

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Originally Posted by nastynice

The entire country got its biggest covid spike in january because the entire country experienced a christmas spike on top of the thanksgiving spike. I dont see what's funny about that, it's just stats. The state closed down in mid novemebr because the spikes were easily predictable and the shut down saved tens of thousands of lives.

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I hate to break it to you but it spreads in ways other than dinner.
02-16-2021, 04:15 PM
blams

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Originally Posted by fingerbang

Maybe. Lotta of restricted states with some pretty horrific numbers.

And they would be significantly more horrific numbers without restrictions.

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02-16-2021, 04:19 PM
fingerbang

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California, Texas, and Florida all have nearly identical covid rates of infection per 1 million people (Texas and California 88,000 and Florida 85,000), however Florida and Texas have higher rates of death per 1 million (Texas 1,400, Florida 1,350, California 1,200).

If Florida had California's death rate, they'd have 4,000 less dead. So I guess this is a roundabout way of saying that whatever California did seems to have been more effective than whatever Texas and Florida did.

We all shoulda done it the NY way. Cuomo got an Emmy. :laugh2:
02-16-2021, 04:24 PM
nastynice

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I hate to break it to you but it spreads in ways other than dinner.

Yes, obviously. People die in ways other than being murdered, doesnt mean we should legalize murder..

Again, its stats. When 50% of the country (both dems and Republicans) has family gatherings over 1 weekend, it's going to reflect in the stats.

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02-16-2021, 04:28 PM
fingerbang

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Yes, obviously. People die in ways other than being murdered, doesnt mean we should legalize murder..

Again, its stats. When 50% of the country (both dems and Republicans) has family gatherings over 1 weekend, it's going to reflect in the stats.

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Honest question, have you had dinner with a friend or family member over let's say... the past year? :laugh2:

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