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I mean it has been my responses to you throughout. You do often say that but you also often jump into the conversations for pieces then leave at some point as well. I dunno what to do other than quote you and directly respond, how could it be more clear? I'll give you that it seems you haven't been aware of the arguments Nasty was making multiple times when you did so it might just be you haven't followed a long a ton. There have definitely been direct questions unanswered that have been noted plenty about the treatment towards churches by SCOTUS reversal of how they have been ruling previously (use whatever semantics you want around it). It's not about in depth or not it is seeming to not want to get into it and just wanting to say "we each have opinions and it's a subjective matter".Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
You can have discussions about subjective matters and not every opinion is backed with the same level of validity. That's where sticking around for the full conversation is important.
I am referencing you asking earlier about if Nasty has been talking about an atheist agenda... Only since near the beginning of the conversations and bringing it up multiple times throughout and his keen eye for it. Pointing out that there is a gap here between religious people and non religious people is telling and I don't overly disagree. Crovash mentioned how it's been made into an us vs them type thing and I agree, that's the issue with SCOTUS decision in part.
the point being he was suggesting churches are a primary killerQuote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
Dude, a lot of us, including you, are here for periods and then gone for periods...it's called real life. There are days where it's logical for me to 'be here' and pay attention to conversations and days where I may only drop in for a few minutes a couple times a day, and times where I'm not here for a day or more...I don't come back thinking I need to go back through every thread I may have posted in and read everything posted since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by mngopher35
I mean he doesn't respond to my posts with specific types of questions when I quote him and then jumps back later often with similar differences of opinion. Alright we disagree on some things, that still doesn't address the root issues being pointed out.Quote:
Originally Posted by nastynice
It's not about how often you are here. You could post twice a week and still have an actual back and forth conversation responding to what is said and questions asked. I work longer days M-Th which is why I often don't respond much during it either. That's not what I am getting at.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiteWolf
You don't need to go through every post but if you keep jumping in at the same points and then leaving when the next step of conversation comes of course this will go no where. I don't care what label people personally feel they should be labeled, no matter how often you jump in that isn't going to be the focus to me just because we disagree on that (I simply think determining that label and the restrictions should be up to local government/health experts/doctors). I have specific issues with SCOTUS ruling and the treatment given to one specific thing and no one else which is a reversal from previously when no one had such treatment from SCOTUS that I am aware of. They actually had rulings previously that seemingly contradict this one.
And I'm saying it's not a conservative mode of thinking, it just happens that conservatives have been talking about similar things. The way I was brought up caring for people is not exclusive to conservatives, in fact it was more fundamental to liberalism. Seeing people suffer sucks and I've seen more than my share.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
I don't think I said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by spliff(TONE)
Yeah, we are a long long way from proving what is/was the right path in all these situations. We'll never really know we'll just get hundreds of books explaining/blaming it away over the next several years.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
I simply don’t subscribe to your “nobody knows anything” mantra. We can be reasonably certain Sweden’s strategy wasn’t optimal because they quite literally abandoned it, making the total number of countries who still think it’s an effective response 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoots
But you both sides everything else, of course you’d both sides this.
It’s not conservative, it just so happens to be a conservative talking point. Whatever rationalizations you need to do for yourself man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoots
Seeing people suffer does suck, and plenty are suffering from Covid. You don’t seem as beat up about them, so it’s hard to take your “oh the humanity!” Seriously.
No, not nobody knows anything, but we don't know that the decisions being made by our leaders are really the best decisions. The situation is more complex than anyone can know what is "the" right answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
It's not both sides, I wasn't talking about political parties or viewpoints, you were.
The venn diagram of ideas and what conservatives might talk about and what liberals talk about has a lot of overlap. If a conservative says we need to pay our teachers more does that make paying teachers well a conservative viewpoint?Quote:
Originally Posted by valade16
How do I express that the pandemic sucks? It sucks. I thought we all knew that.
You certainly echoed the same sentiment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoots