COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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10-07-2021, 01:31 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

Says the guy that thinks 43% of Americans are obese because of food deserts.

I'll just wait for you to quote me saying that. Take your time.
10-07-2021, 01:33 PM
ewing

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

Says the guy that thinks 43% of Americans are obese because of food deserts.

Desserts are often high calorie
10-07-2021, 02:01 PM
dbroncos78087

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Originally Posted by OceanSpray

Just putting it out there, deaths by obesity in America is over 300,000. Deaths by tobacco is also significantly high every year. If we are to be talking about health concerns, I believe these two also need to be addressed and should have been addressed a long time ago even pre-COVID. The actual death count is also much higher considering the only reason many of these individuals are doing better is because they are getting insane medical care that plagues the system. $ that could have gone elsewhere are being used to treat these obesity-related issues. Probably 500,000+ deaths wouldn't be a far estimate.

And what is your proposal to pointing all those things out? If you're just pointing things out to avoid doing anything about a problem, then you're wasting everyone's time.
10-07-2021, 02:17 PM
OceanSpray

It's a fact that buying fresh and cooking from scratch is cheaper than eating unhealthy fast food. A big mac with soda/fries will cost around $9 in NYC. I can go to Costco and get a 50 lb bag of rice for $20 that would last one person an entire year... Veggies are dirt cheap and chicken drumsticks is $1 lb.

People want convenience and are lazy. It's just a fact. There is too much disposable income and they want to sit on their couch watching TV or getting on ProSportsDaily saying they can't lose weight because the government won't tax soda or fast food chains more mooooneyz.

Gym is free. Go outside and jog or do situps. If you can't afford to do that, it just means you're fat and lazy.

Now with hospitals having every medication in the book to prescribe for every health issue, these fat slobs think they can just chug these pills and not have to lose their gut.
10-07-2021, 02:18 PM
natepro

Jesus Christ.:laugh2:
10-07-2021, 02:32 PM
ewing

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Originally Posted by OceanSpray

It's a fact that buying fresh and cooking from scratch is cheaper than eating unhealthy fast food. A big mac with soda/fries will cost around $9 in NYC. I can go to Costco and get a 50 lb bag of rice for $20 that would last one person an entire year... Veggies are dirt cheap and chicken drumsticks is $1 lb.

People want convenience and are lazy. It's just a fact. There is too much disposable income and they want to sit on their couch watching TV or getting on ProSportsDaily saying they can't lose weight because the government won't tax soda or fast food chains more mooooneyz.

Gym is free. Go outside and jog or do situps. If you can't afford to do that, it just means you're fat and lazy.

Now with hospitals having every medication in the book to prescribe for every health issue, these fat slobs think they can just chug these pills and not have to lose their gut.

Live and let live?

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10-07-2021, 02:52 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by OceanSpray

Just putting it out there, deaths by obesity in America is over 300,000. Deaths by tobacco is also significantly high every year. If we are to be talking about health concerns, I believe these two also need to be addressed and should have been addressed a long time ago even pre-COVID. The actual death count is also much higher considering the only reason many of these individuals are doing better is because they are getting insane medical care that plagues the system. $ that could have gone elsewhere are being used to treat these obesity-related issues. Probably 500,000+ deaths wouldn't be a far estimate.

Tobacco was. We did a ton to try to reduce the number of smokers. If we did similar things to try to reduce the number of obese people, that number would drop too.
10-07-2021, 02:54 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

Or people could stop smoking and stop eating fastfood every day for lunch and dinner. That would absolutely create some fundamental changes.

Clearly they can’t. Your solution to this problem is to just say they should change. That’s not a solution.

If you genuinely think this is a problem we should try to solve, saying “just eat healthier” is no more going to fix this problem than telling criminals “don’t murder or steal” is going to solve crime.
10-07-2021, 02:54 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by OceanSpray

It's a fact that buying fresh and cooking from scratch is cheaper than eating unhealthy fast food. A big mac with soda/fries will cost around $9 in NYC. I can go to Costco and get a 50 lb bag of rice for $20 that would last one person an entire year... Veggies are dirt cheap and chicken drumsticks is $1 lb.

People want convenience and are lazy. It's just a fact. There is too much disposable income and they want to sit on their couch watching TV or getting on ProSportsDaily saying they can't lose weight because the government won't tax soda or fast food chains more mooooneyz.

Gym is free. Go outside and jog or do situps. If you can't afford to do that, it just means you're fat and lazy.

Now with hospitals having every medication in the book to prescribe for every health issue, these fat slobs think they can just chug these pills and not have to lose their gut.

Who told you rice was healthy?
10-07-2021, 03:01 PM
OceanSpray

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Originally Posted by valade16

Who told you rice was healthy?

In moderation, rice is good for your diet. It is easy to digest which allows you to feel fuller and consume less overall. I did say a 50 lb bag of rice spread out over a year.... It's not like I am saying you eat the entire bag within a week. The point was to emphasize that you can eat a balanced meal at a much lower cost than eating what many see as cheap and fast food such as McDonald's. It's not really cheap.
10-07-2021, 03:06 PM
valade16

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Originally Posted by OceanSpray

In moderation, rice is good for your diet. It is easy to digest which allows you to feel fuller and consume less overall. I did say a 50 lb bag of rice spread out over a year.... It's not like I am saying you eat the entire bag within a week. The point was to emphasize that you can eat a balanced meal at a much lower cost than eating what many see as cheap and fast food such as McDonald's. It's not really cheap.

In moderation a lot of things are OK. I’d recommend you switch to Brown rice but it is among the nastier things I’ve ever had to eat.
10-07-2021, 03:09 PM
OceanSpray

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Originally Posted by valade16

In moderation a lot of things are OK. I’d recommend you switch to Brown rice but it is among the nastier things I’ve ever had to eat.

can't do brown rice at all. tried it for a week and the bag just sat untouched. I just eat whole wheat bread for fiber instead
10-07-2021, 03:11 PM
dbroncos78087

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Originally Posted by valade16

In moderation a lot of things are OK. I’d recommend you switch to Brown rice but it is among the nastier things I’ve ever had to eat.

Make sure that you drink lots of water if you consume a lot of rice. It is known to dry you out.
10-07-2021, 04:27 PM
natepro

If only we had studies that told us why people make poor nutrition choices.

Ah well. I guess it will just have to remain a mystery.
10-07-2021, 04:46 PM
koldjerky

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Originally Posted by dbroncos78087

Make sure that you drink lots of water if you consume a lot of rice. It is known to dry you out.

I started eating rice again over the last week for a small amount to make me fuller without over indulging. I’ve been thirsty as hell lately. Thankfully I read this post!