COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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Originally Posted by natepro

Well, I called that one.

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80% of cases are asymptomatic or “mild”

https://www.who.int/docs/default-sou...%20ventilation.

In other words if you do get the disease your most likely not going to know or have slight symptoms…


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Here’s another source where in Iceland 50% of people were asymptomatic. Over 40% of kids between ages 6-13 had the disease but had no symptoms

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.uch...ovid-19/%3famp


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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

80% of cases are asymptomatic or “mild”

https://www.who.int/docs/default-sou...%20ventilation.

In other words if you do get the disease your most likely not going to know or have slight symptoms…


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Unless it has it broken down between asymptomatic and mild, that doesn't say what he wants it to.

I also can't find where it says that on the page.

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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

80% of cases are asymptomatic or “mild”

https://www.who.int/docs/default-sou...%20ventilation.

In other words if you do get the disease your most likely not going to know or have slight symptoms…


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what you said wasn’t true


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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255

Here’s another source where in Iceland 50% of people were asymptomatic. Over 40% of kids between ages 6-13 had the disease but had no symptoms

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.uch...ovid-19/%3famp


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This is based on 1% of positive tests of 7% of Iceland's population. Expanding it to everyone that gets COVID seems to be jumping the gun just a bit.

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Originally Posted by natepro

I'm just going to go ahead and assume that there's no citation forthcoming, because you don't strike me as the citation kind of person, so I'm just going to toss these here:

30 Percent of People With COVID-19 Show No Symptoms: Here’s Where They Carry It

Now, evidence suggests that about one in five infected people will experience no symptoms, and they will transmit the virus to significantly fewer people than someone with symptoms.

Nearly 24 percent of transmission is thought to be caused by asymptomatic people who never experience symptoms.

Asymptomatic persons seem to account for approximately 40% to 45% of SARS-CoV-2 infections, and they can transmit the virus to others for an extended period, perhaps longer than 14 days.


None of this is the "vast majority" or "it's not even close." It doesn't even make it to "most," as you initially claimed.

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Just to clarify...you are under the impression that the confirmed cases are a legit measuring stick vs those that walked around unknowing? The confirmed cases are a drop in the bucket of the overall cases. But I suppose marginal intelligence would be required to admit it.

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Originally Posted by natepro

Unless it has it broken down between asymptomatic and mild, that doesn't say what he wants it to.

I also can't find where it says that on the page.

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While the range of symptoms for the two viruses is similar, the fraction with severe disease appears to be different.
For COVID-19, data to date suggest that 80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic, 15% are severe infection,
requiring oxygen and 5% are critical infections, requiring ventilation. These fractions of severe and critical infection
would be higher than what is observed for influenza infection.

Copied and pasted, it does not differentiate from mild compared to no cases though.

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

Just to clarify...you are under the impression that the confirmed cases are a legit measuring stick vs those that walked around unknowing? The confirmed cases are a drop in the bucket of the overall cases. But I suppose marginal intelligence would be required to admit it.

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And that would be turning "we don't know" into "this is what it is," which you can't do without more information. But I suppose blah blah blah.

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Originally Posted by mngopher35

While the range of symptoms for the two viruses is similar, the fraction with severe disease appears to be different.
For COVID-19, data to date suggest that 80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic, 15% are severe infection,
requiring oxygen and 5% are critical infections, requiring ventilation. These fractions of severe and critical infection
would be higher than what is observed for influenza infection.

Copied and pasted, it does not differentiate from mild compared to no cases though.

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Thank you! My Ctrl+F was being dumb on that page for some reason.

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

Just to clarify...you are under the impression that the confirmed cases are a legit measuring stick vs those that walked around unknowing? The confirmed cases are a drop in the bucket of the overall cases. But I suppose marginal intelligence would be required to admit it.

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Do you by chance have any actual data to back up yours/brewers claims?

I think anyone telling others about marginal intelligence would be able to provide something remotely relevant at least....

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Originally Posted by natepro

And that would be turning "we don't know" into "this is what it is," which you can't do without more information. But I suppose blah blah blah.

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Common sense was a thing 4.5 years ago.

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Originally Posted by natepro

Thank you! My Ctrl+F was being dumb on that page for some reason.

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No problem, mine actually did the same thing which is why I shared it that way instead of telling you to try that lol.

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Originally Posted by mngopher35

Do you by chance have any actual data to back up yours/brewers claims?

I think anyone telling others about marginal intelligence would be able to provide something remotely relevant at least....

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See above.

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

Common sense was a thing 4.5 years ago.

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I guess this is what you're going to do instead of admitting you have no data to back up your claim?

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Originally Posted by dbroncsinmo

See above.

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That's a clear no then lol. I guess I shouldn't have expected any different.