COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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10-03-2021, 09:07 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

Yes they are, they just aren't getting attention from the media for doing it, or their lumped in with generic "republican bad"
https://www.yahoo.com/now/black-live...200600400.html

BLM of Greater NY is not a part of the wider BLM organization, and Hank Newsome is not a Democrat.

https://twitter.com/IamHawkNewsome/s...372882948?s=20

Try again.
10-03-2021, 09:07 PM
ciaban2.0

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Originally Posted by metswon69

Cases are important. They continue the spread of the infection which leads to more variants and more cases that lead to hospitalizations and deaths.

This disease is endemic, we don't track cases of the flu this aggressively. Keeping track of a number of cases is fine, but it shouldn't be our barometer.
10-03-2021, 09:08 PM
catman

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Originally Posted by valade16

He keeps acting like that one statement by Harris is as bad at undercutting Covid efforts as the literally thousands of statements by Trump.

Did I say anything good about Trump? I have said that Trump's response to Covid was a disaster. Stop trying to read words that are not there.
10-03-2021, 09:09 PM
ciaban2.0

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Originally Posted by valade16

If we compare by 100K, Florida is still among the highest.

And those states were hit hard in the initial wave, since that time they’ve done way better (New York 6,000 the past 3 months with Florida 19,000 dead).

DeSantis has done abysmal. His approach was terrible and has cost tens of thousands of Floridians lives.

Florida was ALSO hit hard in the initial wave. This disease is seasonal, were about to see the cold weather states get slammed, just like we did LAST YEAR.
10-03-2021, 09:09 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

I'm sorry for posting a link to the far-right fringe outlet...the Atlantic. Should I not post articles from establishment center-left media? Should I only post articles from Brietbart? If you have a problem with the article take it up with the author not me.

Apology accepted.

Next you can work on your obsession with the source and instead focus on the content.
10-03-2021, 09:11 PM
ewing

COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

No, no I'm not creating a false equivalency, I just happened to remember his name easier because of that coincidence, I am not linking his words or his actions back to the Gov of California.

Look at the post I was responding too, Nate said he's only critical of the one side that's opposing masks and mandates.
My point is that these unvax'd black populations are just as critical of masks and mandates they just don't get the same amount of press.
BLM NYC is actively doing just that. There is no false equivalence, there is just unequal coverage.

No one knows who this guy is. What he says does not represent and isn’t representative of any population.

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10-03-2021, 09:13 PM
metswon69

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

This disease is endemic, we don't track cases of the flu this aggressively. Keeping track of a number of cases is fine, but it shouldn't be our barometer.

Because the flu doesn't kill or hospitalize this amount of people. It has to be a barometer because we need to know how extensive the spread is and continues being. You're quick to assume that so many more cases are coming from the Delta variant but cases are down 20% over the last 2 weeks. Maybe this is starting to peter out some but that depends on a multitude of factors that we haven't determined yet.
10-03-2021, 09:14 PM
ciaban2.0

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Originally Posted by metswon69

You have me confused with someone else because I've never seen the DeSantis interview with 60 minutes. Yeah, he's also been super vocal about withholding funds from schools who institute mask mandates, which is maybe one of the dumbest ******** things i've ever heard. Who said they're calling balls and strikes neutrally? I'm going by some of the actions DeSantis has taken in regards to COVID and the vaccine. I don't see Phil Murphy (for example) talking about monoclonal antibodies, letting people lie about how the vaccine changes someone's RNA, threatening to punish schools over mask mandates, etc.

His actions around the vaccine have been to promote it heavily from the beginning.

I very well might have you confused.

Phil Murphy is a democrat, the press wouldn't cover him negatively anyway.

Being against mask mandates isn't what you guys think it is. Faculty, Staff, and Students are not prevented from wearing a mask in school. No one is stopping them. They're just not preventing children from getting an education without wearing the mask.
And Masking Children is NOT a zero-cost solution. Especially for young children.
10-03-2021, 09:15 PM
ciaban2.0

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Originally Posted by metswon69

Because the flu doesn't kill or hospitalize this amount of people. It has to be a barometer because we need to know how extensive the spread is and continues being. You're quick to assume that so many more cases are coming from the Delta variant but cases are indeed 20% over the last 2 weeks. Maybe this is starting to peter out some but that depends on a multitude of factors that we haven't determined yet.

It probably is starting to peter out because of the number of people who have either NI/Vax or both, so the population size it can infect is getting smaller and smaller.
10-03-2021, 09:16 PM
catman

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Originally Posted by natepro

Again, all this simply because I asked you to back up your claim, a request that is not remotely unreasonable.

Asked and answered. Move on.
10-03-2021, 09:17 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by ciaban2.0

This disease is endemic, we don't track cases of the flu this aggressively. Keeping track of a number of cases is fine, but it shouldn't be our barometer.

It is not endemic.
10-03-2021, 09:17 PM
ciaban2.0

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Originally Posted by ewing

No one knows who this guy is. What he says is does not represent and isn’t representative of any population.

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He's the leader of BLM NYC. Most activists aren't well known, but he's organizing protests at city hall over the exact same issue people are criticizing random nobody unelected republicans for.

If a nobody republican is a fair game for criticism for being against masks and mandates, I don't see why this person isn't.
10-03-2021, 09:17 PM
natepro

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Originally Posted by catman

Asked and answered. Move on.

It was not, stop lying.
10-03-2021, 09:19 PM
ciaban2.0

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Originally Posted by natepro

It is not endemic.

If it isn't yet, it soon will become endemic.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00396-2
10-03-2021, 09:19 PM
catman

And by the way, Troll, no response to my suggestions as to how to handle the immigrants. Just moving the goalposts.
You asked me what I would do, with a typical trolling question (I don't expect you to answer honestly). I gave you a legitimate response and you moved on to another subject entirely.
What would be wrong with testing, quarantining for 14 days, re-testing and then vaccinating all of them?