The study was pre delta and omicron variant and new studies show that vaccines are much less effective than they used to beQuote:
Originally Posted by natepro
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The study was pre delta and omicron variant and new studies show that vaccines are much less effective than they used to beQuote:
Originally Posted by natepro
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Just so we don't lose sight of what you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
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Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
And again, this is not true even with Delta.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/24/h...infection.htmlQuote:
Overall, the vaccines reduced infections among vaccinated workers by 80 percent from Dec. 14, when the U.S. vaccination campaign began, to Aug. 14, compared with unvaccinated workers. (The results were adjusted for factors including occupation, demographic characteristics, frequency of close social contact and mask use.)
But while the shots reduced infections by 91 percent before the emergence of the Delta variant, their protectiveness dropped to 66 percent as the variant became dominant in each region.
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Another C.D.C. study released on Tuesday analyzed infections and hospitalizations in Los Angeles County from May 1 to July 25 of this year. While vaccinated people did become infected, the researchers concluded that among the unvaccinated, infection rates were 4.9 times as high, and the hospitalization rate was 29 times as high.
Of 43,127 known infections in Los Angeles County among residents 16 and older, 25 percent were in fully vaccinated people, 3.3 percent in partly vaccinated people and 71.4 percent in unvaccinated people. (The proportion of fully vaccinated Los Angeles County residents increased to 51 percent on July 25, from 27 percent on May 1.)
66% isn't as good as 91%, obviously, but it's certainly not "really doesn't prevent you from getting it." An infection rate 4.9 times higher among the unvaccinated would seem to back this up.
Boosters seem to be helping with Omicron, too, but it's still early.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/12...ron-fauci-saysQuote:
But boosters seem to provide enough extra protection. Dr. Fauci described experiments at the National Institutes of Health that mixed blood serum from people who had had two doses of Moderna and serum from those who had also had a third dose with viruses engineered to carry Omicron’s surface proteins.
These “pseudoviruses” evaded many antibodies from people who had received two doses, but the level of antibodies conferred by the boosters blocked viruses from invading cells.
But you don't care about any of this, right? The vaccine being effective at preventing infection among multiple strains doesn't actually matter to you.
This is of course bull****. There isn’t a study that shows what you claimed or anything approaching that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Really, Cali?Quote:
Originally Posted by goingfor28
I mean I wouldn’t want to live there either but the LAST state?
Mississippi, Kansas, the Dakotas, and West Virginia all seem infinitely worse
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Nah California is way worse than a state where a quarter of the population over 65 is missing most of their teeth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zmaster52
Why does it matter if their missing their teeth or not? It’s hilarious how some certain dems here always resort back to personal attacks based on looksQuote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
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Stares directly at the Nancy Pelosi thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
In case you needed assistance tracking a conservative doing exactly what you’re whining about. And also I’m not referring to their looks. I’m referring to their lack of hygiene.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack the Ripper
Really hope Brewer doesn’t end up on https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/
What a travesty that would be
Uhh you’re a dumbassQuote:
Originally Posted by dbroncos78087
Missing teeth is definitely part of looks. What if they have a disease where their teeth fall out?
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A quarter of the state has that condition that doesn’t afflict anyone else at nearly that high a rate? Really? Sorry but it’s from a lack of hygiene.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewersfan255
Connecticut covid hospitalizations increased by 26 yesterday — almost all of whom are unvaccinated. 77% of the total 736 now hospitalized are unvaccinated (up from 75% in one day), as are virtually all of the “severe” cases.
Never mind the strain that this puts on the humans being who work as health care providers, in the long run we all end up paying the hospital bills for these selfish douchebags.
Look on the bright side, they are thinning themselves out of the gene pool